Why Miss America could never have been Miss India

American Thinker ^ | 09/16/2013 | Ethel C. Fenig

[RinaseaofDs]

And the white chick is five times hotter than the others. I realize that ‘hot’ isn’t a criteria, necessarily. She may be dumber than a bag of hammers, but . . .

[DwFry]

Sorry CoC....fingers worked quicker than the mind on that one.

By “her actions” I meant that her celebration of her culture (notice I didn’t say American culture), once again, is a reminder of what is being set aside: Traditional American Culture.

The culture of the people who created the greatest super power the world had ever know and are now, when not being ridiculed in popular culture, are actively being replaced by our government’s immigration practices.

While I know the new Miss America only intended to win a talent show, people have every right to resent someone dancing on their cultural grave.

[FreedomPoster]

I’ve been using that wherever possible for few decades now.

It still annoys my wife. She is very rules-compliant.

[Nepeta]

I suppose it depends on your outlook. Does the Constitution, Liberty, Levi’s, Gone With the Wind, the Blues/Country & Rock n Roll = White to you?

I've always found Gone With the Wind's glorification of slave ownership appalling. I know it reflects its time period, but I still find it appalling. And my family is from Alabama--and yes, some of them owned slaves.

The Constitution and liberty? Western culture, not white culture. Multiculturisn does not work, but that is because as a society we are failing to insist upon assimilation, as we did with others, the Jews, the Irish, the Italians. Making grandma's recipes is fine, but wanting grandma's culture in the US IS NOT.

[Conscience of a Conservative]

By “her actions” I meant that her celebration of her culture (notice I didn’t say American culture), once again, is a reminder of what is being set aside: Traditional American Culture.

But "Traditional American Culture" wasn't set aside, nor was she "dancing on [anyone's] cultural grave." There was plenty of traditional american culture on display during the talent portion of the pageant: singing and dancing to American music, tap dancing, musical performances, baton twirling, and so on. There were also a handful of performances of different origins: Irish step dancing, ballet, and, yes Bollywood dancing.

The point is, that IS "American culture." American culture (and particularly music/dancing/performaces/etc) has always involved an element of borrowing from others.

[Nepeta]

How does that change the fact that the new Miss America has almost nothing to do with Americans.

Um, she was born here. She is an American...just like Bobby Jindal...

[DwFry]

This logic exposes the flaw in multiculturalism. “All culture is American culture” = no American culture.

I understand your other point about plenty of traditional American culture being in the show but so what? People only reacted strongly to the one.

Multiculturalism breed conflict, breeds resentment, breeds hatred and ultimately violence. History repeats this over & over.

[DwFry]

You’re missing the bigger conversation here...

[Conscience of a Conservative]

This logic exposes the flaw in multiculturalism. “All culture is American culture” = no American culture.

I understand your other point about plenty of traditional American culture being in the show but so what? People only reacted strongly to the one.

Multiculturalism breed conflict, breeds resentment, breeds hatred and ultimately violence. History repeats this over & over.

OK. Assuming all of this to be universally true, what's your solution?

[DwFry]

For now? Yell and throw rocks!...lol

Honestly, I don’t know. I would slow immigration down to a trickle & promote English as an official language but that’s about all I’ve got. The horse may have left the barn by now.

I do know joining in & pretending we’re special, that history will be different because we’re “special” won’t help anything.

[Nepeta]

Multiculturalism breed conflict, breeds resentment, breeds hatred and ultimately violence. History repeats this over & over.

Who gets ahead in this society? People who WORK, and work hard. Does mainstream American culture emphasize study and work, to achieve either academically or in a trade. NO. Individuals from families where such things still matter are the ones who will achieve--and that's as it should be.

I loathe affirmative action...I loathe quotas. The best possible America will be built on merit.

I don't care what my surgeon looks like, or where her grandfather came from (or what he did) as long as she is very, very good at what she does.

Resent success? Maybe people should be advised to try harder, to take difficult math courses, to read the classics, to hone skills in mastering a craft.

[jmacusa]

Muslim is not a race.

[jmacusa]

Well said. I second the motion.

[Nepeta]

I would slow immigration down to a trickle & promote English as an official language but that’s about all I’ve got.

We need to absorb the immigrants already here. We are doing a poor job of that. We should be very picky about immigrants--we do not need unskilled people.

Multiculturism is a disaster. We need to be teaching the root culture and values, and we need to use English as the one and only official language.

[CodeToad]

What you are claiming is that the US has no identity, no culture, nothing and that it is defined by any foreigner coming here and claiming their previous culture is ours.

[CodeToad]

“Why not take her at her word? “

Because she still acts like an Indian. Sorry, can’t be an Indian but claim to be an American. We DO have a culture. If you don’t think so then you must believe any American girl can win an Indian contest without any problems. Acceptance of all cultures within the US is forsaking our own culture. This acceptance of anything and everything is not healthy for our culture. It is saying we shouldn’t have borders either, but any nation without a border isn’t a nation.

[doorgunner69]

Meh, do not want, bring me Miss Kansas..............

[Conscience of a Conservative]

Because she still acts like an Indian. Sorry, can’t be an Indian but claim to be an American. We DO have a culture. If you don’t think so then you must believe any American girl can win an Indian contest without any problems. Acceptance of all cultures within the US is forsaking our own culture. This acceptance of anything and everything is not healthy for our culture. It is saying we shouldn’t have borders either, but any nation without a border isn’t a nation.

How does she "act[] like an Indian"?

[fabian]

yeah, unlike America that has millions of weak men addicted to porn. Have to see those bright women in bikinis! Oh boy.

[Conscience of a Conservative]

What you are claiming is that the US has no identity, no culture, nothing and that it is defined by any foreigner coming here and claiming their previous culture is ours.

No. What I am claiming is that American identity is flexible enough that it doesn't require--and, indeed, has NEVER required--people to abandon their roots abroad, be it food, music, art, or the like. What I am claiming is that American culture is strong enough that it is not threatened by a beauty pageant contestant performing a Bollywood dance.