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To: Texas Songwriter

Since your claim of “diatribe” is yet another false accusation, it says nothing about me, but reflects poorly on you.

And I think I’ve explained already that “certitude” is not what science is all about.
In science, no theory outside mathematics is ever “proved”, but only “confirmed”, and that only by passing tests intended to DISprove it.
And once confirmed, a hypothesis is only tentatively accepted as “theory” until some new test falsifies it.

Point is: there’s no ontological or metaphysical certitude in science.
Those ideas are left for other branches of philosophy.


130 posted on 09/25/2013 9:53:33 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
It is time for you to return to wikipedia and copy some more colored triangles...just, please, don't ping them to me. You might want to try reading the experts in the field.

You say certitude is not what science is about. Yet you invoke numbers...NUMBERS....what are they....an abstract, invariant entity which is not provable in as scientific world. Yet science uses numbers. They use rational thought and logic, yet they cannot prove by scientific method that these abstract entitiies exist? Science uses mind, but minds is not extended into space...it is immaterial. There are many, many abstract invarient entities that science cannot prove, yet acknowledge exist.

Now, I have tried to gently nudge you to realizing I don't consider your statements of any value. I have hinted that we do not have anything more to say to each other. Anyone who reads our conversation understands that you keep saying the same thing and I repeat myself. We are not going to convince each other of anything. Your position is intransigent and my understandings are firm.

So give it a rest. So don't write to me on this thread unless there are matters on other subjects you wish to discuss. Perhaps we will speak on another thread. I will welcome another conversation with you, but this conversation is over. I won't respond to you on the subject which we have been speaking.

I don't mean to be rude but we both have to realize we have reached an impass and we are both repeating ourselves. There is no point in you repeating yourself nor myself repeating my position.

Hope you have a nice day.

131 posted on 09/25/2013 1:45:09 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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