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RUSH: Giving up citizenship -which nation is the New America?
Heritage Foundation ^ | 2013 | NA

Posted on 08/12/2013 10:42:33 AM PDT by Deathtomarxists

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To: Deathtomarxists

If enough ex-pat Americans move to the same country, we could become the new “culture”.

Colonization doesn’t have to just happen to ‘merica these days.

101 posted on 08/12/2013 1:50:40 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Albion Wilde
I hate to burst your bubble, but Texas is becoming Mexico. It's a border state.

The Mexicans will completely take over Texas within the next decade or so. There is no question about this. It's as real as it gets.

102 posted on 08/12/2013 1:56:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Deathtomarxists

“how are the women in phillipines?? available and looking??”

I worked with several. Some were available and some were very good looking. All were bitchy, snotty, dripping with expensive jewelry, and “wore the pants in the family”. Someone told me it’s a matriarchal society. Don’t know if that’s true - just what I was told.

103 posted on 08/12/2013 2:02:38 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I feel much better since I gave up hope.)
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To: jameslalor; All

I concur, and might I add this is the kind of discussions that are needed these days.

First of all, I’d like to accent the point that jameslalor made about tribalism; where for that reason, I had thought of Liberia being a last resort if needed.

The reader is of course saying, “Liberia?? you must be nuts!”. Here me out.

First of all, I’m black. I don’t consider myself and African -American by any means, nor have I ever set foot on the continent. But I figure if I gotta bail in a hurry, better to run to a place where they look like you, speak the same language, and you have something to offer them, rather that living off of them.

[Sidebar: for the little fed-lings out there reading this saying “Aha! He’s going to Liberia!”, don’t go high-fiving yourself yet, as my final destination will be a much better place, and I’m confident you’ll never get there(just keep reading). But I digress...]

What I said above is important for anyone thinking of relocating outside the U.S. You have to be ready to adapt to the laws (or lack thereof), language and culture of what is around you unless you have enough force to tame the place to your linking. If not, you’re just like the illegal immigrants that (here’s the shocker) no one wants in their country anymore. Thus making the American government currently one of the stupidest on earth for actually wanting more in. This alone makes our downfall imminent (just ask Rome).

I have thought about this alot, and have decided that although I am not yet a senior citizen, there will be conflict on this soil (actually, it’s already begun) and if it is to be won by our side, it will not be done during our lifetimes. At best, I figure we may lay the spritual, social and communicative ground work, our children and grandchildren will wage the war, and their children may finish it. I believe we should think about this as a war for the survival of freedom that will last beyond the next generation.

With that in mind, I would not hold anyone at fault for moving their family offshore. If you are thinking of may just you and your spouse, ask yourself could you be a safe house or in a strategic position to help others in the future?

I’m thinking well beyond mere guns money and margaritas on the beach.

When things really begin to blow up, there will be American refugees. Like in the SW US today, illegals are flooding the border, knowing there’s a social network for them. Where’s the social network for the ex-pats?

Lastly, allow me to think outside the box when it comes to the possibility of a secession movement: If Alaska, The Yukon, British Columbia, Alberta, and the 4 U.S. states in the NW corner all joined forces, you would only have 3 minor problems: Vancouver, Seattle, and Portland. If those cities well um... didn’t have a say in the matter, the population there could vote themselves into the largest country on earth with warm water ports, plenty of raw materials, etc.

There’s a mindset among the people up that way. Kinda frontiersmen like. You’ll need that to survive.

If the people there even showed the willingness to defend it, Canada would fall in short order. Washington would be force to act with force, but I would simply convince them that the center of the resistance is located in Vancouver, Seattle, and Portland.

Bottom line is, “when you’re burned, you’re not going anywhere”, as they say. And I’m pretty fried from fighting this battle for years. But I will do my part with prayer, words and deeds to help light the way for the next generations out of the darkness. We’ll all be dead and gone, but our posterity will remember us for what we did for them - or didn’t do. What happens between now and then, is up to each one of us.

104 posted on 08/12/2013 2:19:59 PM PDT by jimjohn
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To: Deathtomarxists
It has a large expatriot population so has pizza parlors, burger joints and steak restaurants. plus you can catch the nfl games there. Housing is new

Sounds analogous to the Californication Red States, except on a national level.

105 posted on 08/12/2013 3:10:20 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Deathtomarxists

How did the Confederates do in Brazil?

106 posted on 08/12/2013 3:32:37 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Mr. K

We were there this year to check out Chiang Mai. We really liked this place (400 miles north of Bangkok). It is actually quiet and we found it to be quite clean. They are building a bullet train to Bangkok-will be done next year I think. Lots of ex-pats there, from everywhere. Medical care is cheap and superb. You can buy private health care insurance there, but they can and usually do cut you off at age 72. You then have to apply for a govt plan, and the Thais don’t like this. Of course you can always buy it with cash. We met a guy who has 2 cardiac stents placed for total of $400 to 500 range. Renting is recommended, not buying, as you can’t own the house unless you have Thai husband or wife, However,there are ways to get around this. I also think language issue would be a barrier.
It certainly gave us food for thought.

107 posted on 08/12/2013 3:47:33 PM PDT by pugmama
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To: lone star annie

Keep you powder dry my friend.

We shall choose the moment for repelling the B_tards.

We are lucky enough to have some TX leadership who will not comply with the national destruction order. I know several who are like US, not like Them.

Define the enemies of We the People who are Congressmen. Prepare to fully expose their lies. If that fails, then we must choose a fallback position.

Sam Houston, chose the moment at San Jacinto. And in 18 minutes sealed the destiny of 1/3 of the US (after 10 years of the Republic).

108 posted on 08/12/2013 3:50:53 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one)
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To: Albion Wilde

Yes. We shall choose the moment, if it is necessary.

109 posted on 08/12/2013 3:52:03 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one)
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To: Deathtomarxists

ping for later.

110 posted on 08/12/2013 6:00:31 PM PDT by
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To: Deathtomarxists

my family left Ireland, Scotland, and England before the Revolutionary War. Some married their kind, others married into the Indian Nations.

We sure as hell ain’t going nowhere.

111 posted on 08/12/2013 8:36:34 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Deathtomarxists

The wealthy Americans who live overseas are upset at a new set of intrusive foreign banking laws that requires foreign bank who have American depositors to issue extensive reports to the U.S. IRS... Some foreign banks don’t want to do this and are cutting back on accepting American clients. Plus Americans different from residents of many other nations have to pay U.S. Income Tax on foreign earnings ... So many are opting to drop their U.S. citizenship.

The one issue not discussed here much - is that many Americans are choosing to live overseas as a means of economic survival - it has just become too expensive to live in the USA on a modest retirement ... it has nothing with patriotism and more to do with survival .....

112 posted on 08/13/2013 6:44:51 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Deathtomarxists


Sounds like Thailand in the winter and alberta in the summer

113 posted on 08/13/2013 7:37:14 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’ve said it before, always listen to Nana. A big part of the socialist tactic is to demoralize the opponent. So, have fun! It pisses liberals off.

114 posted on 08/13/2013 7:44:18 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: wku man
Stay and fight...or be a worthless POS coward. Every American who fought and died in the past is watching us at this moment, to see what we do for the nation they left for us. Will we earn our birthright? Or will we run and hide in some sh*thole foreign land because we're pathetic, sniveling cowards; because nothing is more valuable to us than our own comfort and perceived "safety".

I couldn't agree more.

Americans don't turn tail when the path ahead looks tough. We roll up our sleeves and re-double our efforts.

Any American who would run and hide in a foreign land isn't worthy of the name.
115 posted on 08/23/2013 1:23:50 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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