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42-Year-Old Pot Conviction Stops 20-Year Army Veteran From Buying a Rifle
Reason.com ^ | July 10, 2013 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 07/11/2013 2:59:00 PM PDT by Altariel

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To: Altariel

Currently, according to tbe FBI, medical marijuana use disqualifies gun purchases. Is he still considered an illegal drug user because of the old conviction?


41 posted on 07/11/2013 3:59:11 PM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: Patriot Babe

It’s very possible that the rationale behind this is more about blocking access to someone more likely to Fight Back Against Tyranny, and not pot.


42 posted on 07/11/2013 4:01:51 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
receiving a sentence of probation because he was a first-time offender. The probation lasted a year, but according to the Justice Department the ensuing loss of Kelly's Second Amendment rights lasts a lifetime.

This poor citizen is in need of some pro bono citizen heavy duty support. We are 3/4 of the way down that slippery slope, if this is allowed to stand.

What's next? A single isolated DUI while a teenager?

This affects pretty much 95% of the American citizenry, and is clearly an arbitrary and capricious policy. This regime seems to be really a runaway with stupid moves.

The reasonable man, if he still exists, would conclude the prohibition being applied refers to both convictions and felonies. And even these must be subject to the statute of limitations.

Did Sandy Burglar ever serve time for stealing national documents? Was he even charged and convicted?
Does he own a gun? ?

43 posted on 07/11/2013 4:01:53 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: HenryArmitage
The article states in more than one place that it was a misdemeanor. Here, I'll post that paragraph again...

Kelly's disqualification may in fact be unjustified under current law, which bars gun sales to people convicted of felonies but not misdemeanors (except for misdemeanors involving domestic violence). Unless the feds are treating what North Carolina called a misdemeanor as a felony for some reason, Kelly's pot conviction should not be covered by that provision.

As to your other point about what constitutes a felony for pot possession I think it's quite possible that NC law has changed in the last 42 years.

44 posted on 07/11/2013 4:02:45 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Patriot Babe
Ok he was denied over a 42 year old conviction because of weed. Then shouldn’t that apply to ODumbo for cocaine use in his college years too - disqualified to be President?

Depends. Do you think that a criminal poseur pretending to be president of the U.S. is as dangerous to the Republic as a veteran with a grass citation 32 years ago?

45 posted on 07/11/2013 4:04:33 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: TigersEye

After 40 years, if it was a felony back then and he has has a clean record since then, he should apply for a pardon. That would clear the recrd where an expugement would not do the job. In today’s political climate, he might get one for simple possession.


46 posted on 07/11/2013 4:05:47 PM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: Sasparilla

The article states that it was a misdemeanor.


47 posted on 07/11/2013 4:07:17 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Ouderkirk
He was denied by NCIS

NCIS????

48 posted on 07/11/2013 4:07:48 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Altariel
The act defines a felony as any conviction for a crime classified as a felony or a crime that carries the possibility of a jail sentence longer than one year. Technically, a DWI in Texas disqualifies you from owning a gun for life, even though it is only a misdemeanor. I don't think Texas reports DWI's though. I have one on my record and I've never had a problem buying a gun, even though the maximum sentence for a DWI was two tears in prison back when I got it.
49 posted on 07/11/2013 4:37:43 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Sasparilla
he should apply for a pardon.

I don't think that will work. I seem to recall a judge ruling that a even a dismissal after deferred adjudication still counts against you when it comes to buying a gun.

50 posted on 07/11/2013 4:44:14 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Jean S; 2ndDivisionVet; 5thGenTexan; AirForce-TechSgt; Alamo-Girl; Allen In Texas Hill Country; ...
Tomball Texas ping!
51 posted on 07/11/2013 4:51:40 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Altariel

EFF this crap


52 posted on 07/11/2013 4:55:03 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: publius911
ipso erto qwerty...I type therefore I misspell
53 posted on 07/11/2013 4:55:36 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: texas booster

Something stinks here.
Surely this is not the first gun this vet ever purchased.


54 posted on 07/11/2013 5:03:10 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: publius911
What's next? A single isolated DUI while a teenager?

Things are moving in just that direction. In California SB 755 proposes a 10 year ban for a second DUI. Remember the ultimate goal is to get everyone they can into a prohibited category, including people taking anti-depressants.

And before you say "Oh well that's just California" remember that they own this state lock stock and barrel and it is their proving ground to test this stuff and get it right before they roll it out to other states. The legislators here are so stupid that they often write laws that don't actually do what they want them to (e.g. "assault weapon" ban) but then they figure out what they did wrong and don't make the same mistakes elsewhere. Just ask the folks in CO, CT & NY.

55 posted on 07/11/2013 5:47:55 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: Altariel; El Gato; Eaker; hocndoc; Squantos; SwinneySwitch; MeekOneGOP; weegee; EQAndyBuzz; ...
Texas Ping

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56 posted on 07/11/2013 5:56:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

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57 posted on 07/11/2013 6:24:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: mylife
Something stinks here. Surely this is not the first gun this vet ever purchased.

I know that some misdemeanors bar gun ownership based on stuff like the Lautenberg Amendment (domestic cases) and in other state matters where the possible jail time is 2 years or more (can't recall if that's in the '68 GCA or something more recent).

The weird part here is that a conviction from 42 years ago actually got uploaded into NICS. Hell, that's 1971. I suppose it *could* have happened as part of a court clerk's modernization project - scanning old files and building a digital database. More likely, IMO, is the possibility that federal money is being spread around to pay for sifting through archived files for this stuff.

58 posted on 07/11/2013 6:26:21 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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The weird part here is that a conviction from 42 years ago actually got uploaded into NICS.

It is beyond odd.

59 posted on 07/11/2013 6:33:25 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Jean S
...he is now banned from owning guns in Wisconsin the USSA.
60 posted on 07/11/2013 6:52:23 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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