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Hyper-vanity: why is a Congress necessary if predidents can issue executive orders?
4-4-13

Posted on 04/04/2013 12:21:25 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

Seems like congress is just a jobs program for 535 people at a time.


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1 posted on 04/04/2013 12:21:25 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

a long day

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It must be if you misspelled pResident.


2 posted on 04/04/2013 12:28:30 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

job would imply work.


3 posted on 04/04/2013 12:30:25 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Responsibility2nd

(( duh! )) no kidding. Thx.


4 posted on 04/04/2013 12:31:41 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

you’re right, too! Man, I’m way off my game today.


5 posted on 04/04/2013 12:32:42 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Not sure if you’re serious but I’ll answer. Congress holds the legislative power, they make the laws. The executive power carries out the laws. An executive order is a command from the head of the Executive Branch (the president) to carry out the law in such and such way.

This is not to imply that the president can make law with executive orders. But the congress has, by law, created executive departments and given them regulatory authority and has left legislation vague so the unelected regulators fill in the gaps with their own agendas.


6 posted on 04/04/2013 12:40:14 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: InvisibleChurch

The supposed purpose of Executive Orders is to document and direct the vast Executive Branch departments as to how they will execute, in detail, the laws passed by Congress.

This could include details such as holding public interest hearings, publishing notices, issuing warnings prior to citations, or administrative detail as to what participants from what sub-department level departments will execute what provisions of a new law.

It has changed into how the President will cause a law not to be enforced or executed, how a branch is instucted to do something at variance with a specific understanding of a law or how to thwart a co-equal branch — in other words it has become politicized and used as a tool in many cases.

In court, if an EO is fabricating a penalty from whole cloth, the action “at-law” will be found by the judicial branch as warranted and the enforcement of the EO overturned, but it takes a suit being brought and heard.


7 posted on 04/04/2013 12:42:25 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: cotton1706

Yes, I am serious. I trust people on Free Republic to give easy-to-understand answers. Thanks for your input.


8 posted on 04/04/2013 12:43:30 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: KC Burke

Thank you.


9 posted on 04/04/2013 12:44:29 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

job would imply work.

Yeah, congress is more of a welfare program where instead of foodstamps you can insider trade and get awesome kickbacks.


10 posted on 04/04/2013 1:03:08 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: InvisibleChurch

When a Rat is president, the media can blame any dissatisfaction with federal government on Republicans and “Congress”.

Any reporting of low ratings for their god Hussein is immediately followed by reporting an even lower rating for “Congress”.


11 posted on 04/04/2013 1:08:14 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Responsibility2nd; InvisibleChurch

I think he was having a Lisp full day....


12 posted on 04/04/2013 1:41:55 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I been axin’ the same question and getting the answers here to the effect that Constitution is perfect, and doncha diss da Founders!


13 posted on 04/04/2013 1:45:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: InvisibleChurch; All
Not only is "executive order" not a constitutional term, but please consider the following. The Founding States made the very first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I (evidently a good place to hide these clauses from Constitution-ignorant citizens) to clarify that all legislative powers of the federal government are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in the president.

In fact, the Supreme Court has already clarified in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer that executive orders do not have the force of law unless they are legislatively supported by Congress, such legislation based on powers which the states have expressly delegated to Congress via the Constittution.

Executive Order

But since the RINO-controlled HoR doesn't necessarily support Obama's unconstitutional agenda, Obama might as well make paper airplanes out of a lot of his PC executive orders. Actually, Obama likely knows that his misguided supporters think that his executive orders are like a king's edict.

14 posted on 04/04/2013 1:55:04 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10
Obama likely knows that his misguided supporters think that his executive orders are like a king's edict.

You need power to exercise authority, you don't need authority to exercise power.

15 posted on 04/04/2013 4:43:08 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Well, of course it’s only perfect if we actually use it


16 posted on 04/04/2013 6:44:24 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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