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To: muawiyah

As I read your post, you sound like a Libertarian. Marriage pre-exists the state. If you are a conservative and not a Libertarian on marriage, would you please answer the following:

Why does marriage require the state to define it, regulate it, tax it, subsidize it, give married persons certain rights and obligations not available to non-maried persons?

Why aren’t these matters left to the parties involved?

What is the state interest in, for example, giving a larger S.S. benefit to the survivor of a marriage in which the spouse worked regularly, than to the surviving partner of a gay relationship?

And, what is the state interest in giving two S.S. benefits to gays in a relationship when both worked, and giving only one S.S. benefit to a married couple when both worked?

Or, do you think all or most of these discriminations were never intended, and have simply accumulated into a really complicated mess over the years?


16 posted on 04/01/2013 11:43:31 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever
The history of formal marriage when it comes to state ivolvement is two fold ~ one involves the question of inheritance of the state itself. The second involves a more modern concept called CIVIL REGISTRATION. The Constitution provides for a decennial census ~ and by construction allows for the concept of civil registration so it's not prohibited.

The biological origin of pair-bonding is recognized. Exceptions to it are not considered 'momentary pair bonding', for example.

A modern state should certainly be able to formally recognize pair-bonding between members of opposite sex while excluding other arrangements without a clear biological origin.

Ergo, the folks advocating gay marriage, and even polygamy, are luddites and flat earthers.

18 posted on 04/01/2013 11:53:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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