The One-Year Pantry, Layer by Layer

SHTF Plan ^ | 3/13/13 | Tess Pennington

[PapaBear3625]

Your 1 year pantry does no good if the place you live is beset by looters. Do not fool yourself into thinking you can buy enough ammunition to keep them out either.

Put enough skulls on poles around the property and you might discourage most.

Looters, cut in thin slices, make good long-pork jerky.

[bgill]

Hang an empty bottle of bbq sauce between a couple of skulls and you won’t have any trouble.

[yorkiemom]

What a disappointment!

First, I don’t see how the eggs in the corn hatched if deprived of oxygen - or how the bugs lived in an oxgyen-free environment. So perhaps the mylar/oxygen absorber situation had a flaw. (I’ve bought large mylar bags from Emergency Essentials that I could see pinholes of light through, right out of the shipping box. That could be one source of the problem.)

I’ve never stored whole corn like you are doing (only because I haven’t thought of it until recently). But what I’ve done for rice and beans is 1) freeze them for 2-3 days and then 2) dry in the oven at a low temperature (170 degrees) for an hour. This not only will kill any remaining larvae but will dry the stuff so it is low-moisture and ready to seal in mylar. (I didn’t put dessicants in the mylar bags.) I probably don’t need to do both steps, but since I had the time and freezer space, why not?

[PapaBear3625]

When I opened the first bag after about 2 months the corn was crawling with bugs.

I wonder if putting it in the oven at 300 degrees for an hour, and then sealing it, would damage its nutritional value?

[Kartographer]

http://shtfschool.com/protection/abuse-of-power-or-just-the-human-side-of-authorities/

[yorkiemom]

I wonder if putting it in the oven at 300 degrees for an hour, and then sealing it, would damage its nutritional value?

I found this online:
bean weevil, common name for a well-known cosmopolitan species of beetle (Acanthoscelides obtectus) that attacks beans and is thought to be native to the United States. It belongs to the family Bruchidae, the seed beetles. The bean weevil is small, about 1-6 in. (0.4 cm) long, and stout-bodied, with a short broad snout and shortened wing covers (elytra). The adults attack legumes either in storage or in the field and may even completely destroy them. The grubs, or larvae, hatch from eggs laid in holes that have been chewed by the female into stored beans or into pods in the field. In heavy infestations there may be two dozen or more newly hatched larvae in one bean. When full-grown, the larvae form pupae in the eaten-out cavity. As many as six generations are produced in a single season, and in storage breeding continues as long as there is available food left in the beans and a warm temperature. The larvae can be killed by fumigation or by heating the seeds to 145°F; (63°C;) for two hours. Bean weevils are classified in the phylum Arthropoda Arthropoda [Gr.,=jointed feet], largest and most diverse animal phylum. The arthropods include crustaceans, insects, centipedes, millipedes, symphylans, pauropodans, and the extinct trilobites. ..... Click the link for more information. , class Insecta, order Coleoptera, family Bruchidae.

So it looks like 2 hours at 145 is recommended. We'd need to know the bug type we are dealing with I guess. But I'll up my procedure to 2 hours at 170 and figure that will cover all bug types. And hopefully 170 won't damage the beans' nutritional quality. I have a bag of beans straight of the store in the frig to use for planting, since I figure the ones dried in the oven and stored w/o oxygen won't be sprouting!

[Kartographer]

"Hang an empty bottle of bbq sauce between a couple of skulls and you won’t have any trouble."

And a tooth pick, don't forget the tooth pick! ;-)

[yorkiemom]

"We will kill you. We will kill you and take your stash. We have our orders, we couldn't care less. This is from an active duty military."

And no one challenged that post.

It will be ugly, no doubt.

I trust no one completely at this point (other than my husband). I'll be keeping an eye on the fellow preppers we will be working with when it all falls apart as well. I expect them to do the same to us. When times are tough, caution must prevail. If we use our resources up and only have enough food for 5 when there are 10 people - even the best preppers and best friends will do what they can to survive.

Hopefully it won't ever come to that and we only need to protect our stashes and our property from the 'outsiders'.

[ansel12]

Probably the safest place to live would be outside of a military base in a small town that is filled with those who serve the GIs, who rent homes to their families, who are retired from them, and a town that is remote from outsiders, which makes it more of an extension of the base than a real city.

New Mexico has plenty of towns like that which are isolated by miles of desert and 50 mile vistas with a couple of roads in and out, and not just military towns but also little towns that are made up largely of feds like Border Patrol, DEA, and others who own homes and are locals.

[goosie]

One of my favorite youtube videos is Prepper’s Last Meal. This lady shows how to use dried corn to make cornmeal mush and then fry the left over for another meal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCVaO263PNQ

[Kartographer]

Water is and always has been the major problem with NM.

[SkyDancer]

[goosie]

I have used popcorn for cornbread and cornmeal mush but it was either fresh from the grocery store or I bought it in a five pound bucket sealed in a mylar bag with no oxygen. If you buy corn in the mylar bag, it should last indefinitely with no bugs.

[skinkinthegrass]

Watch It now...in some areas (libtard/cps/ Prunes of America),
This is Porn...some skin below the chin. ;-O

[ansel12]

Water is and always has been the major problem with NM.

I don't know what that has to do with anything, we are interested in our own water, or the communities water, not the state in general in regards to population growth.

[SkyDancer]

Hmmm, should have just put up the thumbnail version. Let’s hope there aren’t any Mussies trolling her.

[Kartographer]

Water is problematic; Do you have enough to grow crops? Do you have enough to last through an extended drought and so own. Water in many parts of is neither plentiful or easy to get to. And in a shtf scenario you can even count on the present systems of damns to provide what they do now.

If it wasn’t for the systems of damns and for electricity NM would be far and away more sparsely occupied than it is today.

[ansel12]

What does that have to do with us on this thread, we are only interested in water of our own or the community we live in or would live in, not in comparing New Mexico to Illinois or whatever, or even to Southern California and it’s imported water.

[Kartographer]

Please explain what part you don’t understand about the importance of a reliable and adequate water source that doesn’t rely on a considerable infrastructure and or electricity for transport?

[ansel12]

Quit being a jerk and going to that angry place when someone points out something to you or disagrees with you about something.

Many states have less water than other states, but of what interest is that to us as individuals on this thread, we are only interested in water available to us individually or to the community that we live in, or would consider moving to.

We can talk all day about all of the states (lots of them including So Cal) that don’t have a lot of water statewide, or for future population growth.