[TalonDJ]

That's what equality looks like.

The young men where enough in control of the facilities to take actions. Witnesses say she had to be propped up....

Why am I even arguing. You are full it garbage, man. The idea that the men have no responsibility is garbage. If the guys had all been passed out drunk and some gay dudes came and bum raped them I doubt you would be defending them. That is the equality for you. But beyond that there is a double standard for a reason. Guys have the keys to a car when they drink. The car is in their pants. Dudes don't get knocked up if they get drunk and screw someone. A drunk guy still has to get his keys and get in the car (and I ain't talking about cars). Where as the girl just has to pass out and get 'hit' by the 'drunk driver'. Action causes responsibility. Inaction does not. They both drank so that is not what is a stake here. After drinking she just lay there and they did crimes.

They very idea that the men have no responsibility because SHE was drunk is so far beyond stupid it is astounding.

[papertyger]

If the guys had all been passed out drunk and some gay dudes came and bum raped them I doubt you would be defending them.

You would be wrong if the guy intentionally went bar hopping, and perhaps wven flirting, with them knowing full well said gay dudes were looking to get "lucky."

Action causes responsibility. Inaction does not.

Tell that to your creditors when you haven't paid them. Perhaps "due diligence" is a foreign concept to you?