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To: Lakeshark
How in the world are you blaming a 16 year old girl for being raped multiple times while she is passed out?

No one is "blaming" the victim for anything. Rather, it's quite possible she contributed to the circumstances she ended up in, whatever they were (unknown/unproven at this point), and she didn't know how to keep herself out of harm's way.

Did she deserve this because she didn't know how to handle alcohol?

Of course not! But why did no one make sure this didn't happen? Her friends told her not to go...but she went. Was this the first time she'd had many drinks?

Did she deserve this because the football players doing this simply had to take advantage of her because being passed out means she's fair game?

NO, this girl did not "deserve" any of this. I think she made a very big mistake that she could/would have eventually recovered from had it not gone "viral" on the social media. Times have not changed that much, and these "football players" and B.M.O.C. - types can usually have whoever they want, just for the asking. They obviously behaved very badly, but "girls" need to be wary of being "groupies", too, and why didn't anyone watch out for this vulnerable young woman? Or did they try, and she didn't listen?

Did she deserve this because she's an unworthy human?

That's ridiculous! The Bible teaches that all humans are unworthy just by nature, and whatever your opinion of that, it's just plain and simple that actions have consequences. If the girl had not gone to the party, if she had not gone off with the boys (a.k.a. "the football players"), none of this would have happened. She reportedly has no memory of the incident, and I hope it stays that way, whether she really knows and is covering up, or she genuinely doesn't remember.

I would just add, be very careful about sourcing the news reports of what did happen...IMHO, it's just not clear!

112 posted on 03/12/2013 11:47:59 PM PDT by 88keys (never do nothing, unless it's the best strategy)
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To: 88keys
No one is "blaming" the victim for anything.

On the contrary, the poster you are defending obviously is blaming her.

I think she made a very big mistake that she could/would have eventually recovered from had it not gone "viral" on the social media. Times have not changed that much

The story says she was passed out then raped multiple times. Do you really think before social media this girl would have easily recovered? That's simply not true.

That's ridiculous!

Of course that's ridiculous, but so is the argument by anyone defending the boys who raped her.

I would just add, be very careful about sourcing the news reports of what did happen...

Like I said, we're commenting on what's being reported, not on some grand theory that this is a way (as the other truly moronic poster thinks) for the radical feminists in the press to get back at boys. There is no hint that there is a reasonable side of the story, like in the Zimmerman story. There is just a public defender claiming something that is fairly absurd, as lawyers often do. I wrote post #99 about an experience I witnessed in high school, you might want to comment on the scenario I made.

Thanks for trying to answer the questions.

122 posted on 03/13/2013 6:54:38 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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