Posted on 02/16/2013 9:23:42 PM PST by ExxonPatrolUs
Edited on 02/16/2013 10:56:50 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
In perhaps the "most controversial proposal" in Tuesday night's State of the Union address, President Obama called for raising the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $9 an hour. "Even with the tax relief we've put in place, a family with two kids that earns the minimum wage still lives below the poverty line. That
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Gov providing more incentive to hire illegals and pay cash under the minimum wage. More low-end off-the-books jobs more illegal immigration.
My work started young at .02 cents a bale in the barn. My Country disappoints me. Calls me every name in the book and takes every penny they can.
I’m on board with a revolution. Just Me
That is one of the most breathtakingly stupid economic arguments I've ever read.
But we shouldn't be surprised. Mr. Noah is a graduate of Harvard College, from which he obtained a degree in English in 1980. He was on the prose board of the Harvard Advocate. That explains his robust and brilliant economic knowledge.
2 cents a bale just to clarify. After 2500 bales I bought a train set.
In 0bamaland $9x0 = thousands of dollars in food stamps, thousands in WIC vouchers, 0bama phones, Section 8 housing, thousands of dollars in free education, "free" school lunches for your brood, "free" healthcare, of course "disability" money from Social Security, and on and on.
Washington state already has minimum wage over $9/hour.
Unemployment rate in WA in Dec 2012 was 7.6% and dropping.
During the same month, national rate was 7.8% and steady.
However because of the highest minimum wage in country, teenagers are having tough time finding summer jobs. I know
this from first hand experience. My kids and their friends
were teenagers until last year.
I was a kid after all
I never new it. I had a wonderful childhood. Those that came before me made it so. This world is different.
I used to go door to door and offer to pick up cigarette butts and litter in people's yard for 50 cents (from about age 6/7); on the occasion someone gave me .75 or a dollar it was like the second coming of Christmas. I didn't get all the latest toys or an allowance. Any pocket money I did have, that's how I earned it; of course when I got bigger I could rake leaves, carry groceries etc. I certainly didn't have any name brand clothes/shoes....unless I bought them.
My parents worked their butts off to move us out of the trailer park and into a house without axles or wheels. And even then I continued to work.....I was working two jobs through high school - my steady job I'd routinely clock overtime in the summer (and violate child labor laws, but it was up on an Indian reservation so it didn't matter; though I did pay state and fed income taxes).
Every time I see the handout crowd with their 0bamabucks cards and their Escalades it burns my ass. That I've literally been working since age 7 and paying their way since I was 16.
Of course, I do do blame my upbringing and environment for my fondness of the IROC-Z and anything with "Trans Am" on it......unfortunately no "/s" tag on that.
Most Excellent. You understand
I was a baby of 7 from the 50’s and 60’s . Life was fun but money was up to you. Dad would give a quarter from time to time.
I didn’t care, we had the best time of our lives.
Well, let's look at recent history:
In 2007, unemployment was mostly around 5.4%.
In 2008, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi passed a raise in the minimum wage.
In 2009, unemployment reached 9.8%, and still hovers around 8% even 3 years later.
During this entire 5 year period, poverty has not shrunk (we went from 17 million on food stamps in 2000 to 47 million today), prices are higher (gas went from $1.89 to $3.50, and milk went from $3.19 to $4.89 per gallon), and the national debt has exploded.
So, please tell us how any fair-minded and rational adult does not already know the answer to the title question?
I would pick lettuce for $50 an hour as that asshat McCain...
Never mind.
It has no net effect. Politicians do it to take up air and make like they are moving forward.
I'm still trying to figure this quote out. Are both parents working MW? They should be eligible for all KINDS of government goodies. Free healthcare, housing, phone, food stamps, childcare, etc.
Worth a whole hell of alot more than "just" MW. Probably worth close to 30K in giveaways.
And honestly I've never seen a family of 4 where both parents work MW jobs.
Not saying they don't exist, I've just never seen it. By the time you've had a couple of kids, generally you've acquired enough skills and experience that you make more than MW.
When inflation kicks in, it might just have to be 100 or even 500...
“Probably no longer the wealthiest nation thanks to O’s efforts.”
We are number 14 (IMF) 16 )world bank) 18 (CIA) or 19 (United Nations) according to wikipedia and who is doing the ranking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
I highly doubt that family of 4 he is talking about has 2 people over 18 in it.
I highly doubt that family of 4 has 1 diploma in it.
Why am I forced to pay for others bad decissions with my good ones?
Years ago, I always had a curiousity what it would be like to visit Zimbabwe or impoverished areas of Mexico and Central America. Thanks to Dubya, he brought the latter two to my neighborhood. Thanks to Emperor Zero, he’ll bring Zimbabwe to the rest of us.
I see. Now when I pay $4 for a gallon of gas instead of $2 it lasts longer and is a better gallon. The extra cost is offset by my driving less so efficiency rises. Brilliant!
Less turnover of gallons saving wear and tear on my truck, even more brilliant! I think I’m going to demand a doubling of my pay so I can be more efficient.
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