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Linguist Makes Sensational Claim: English Is a Scandinavian Language
Apollon Magazine (via Science Daily) ^ | 11-27-2012 | Trine Nickelsen

Posted on 11/29/2012 2:59:29 PM PST by Renfield

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To: editor-surveyor
Sorry to have hurt your feelings, but the prophet Jeremiah led his troup through England and Ireland over 2500 years ago. Hebrews have lived there ever since.

Exactly. Exemplified by the tin miners and other Israelite resource-gatherers throughout the early centuries that made the isles Hebrew isles.

81 posted on 12/01/2012 10:12:37 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: SunkenCiv

Is this groundhog day?

You’re postings are now coming online three times, atleast on my computer.


82 posted on 12/01/2012 12:17:16 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.Reid)
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To: SunkenCiv

Is this groundhog day?

You’re postings are now coming online three times, atleast on my computer.


83 posted on 12/01/2012 12:17:34 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.Reid)
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To: MD Expat in PA

About 1/3 of English vocabulary is Hebrew derived words.


84 posted on 12/01/2012 12:23:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SunkenCiv; Straight Vermonter; Swordmaker

If you divide your long lists into smaller sub-lists, you will find a point where it stops happening.


85 posted on 12/01/2012 12:27:33 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: wildbill

>> “Is this groundhog day?” <<

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Yes, but most people call it pork sausage, not Ground hog.


86 posted on 12/01/2012 12:29:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: wildbill

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2964195/posts?page=66#66


87 posted on 12/01/2012 12:47:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yeah, that’s not going to happen. I also would like to point out that, despite a much smaller size, I’ve had it happen in the past few days with one of the other lists I ping, which has maybe forty names on it. To do 800 names that way would require 20 ping messages. IOW, forget it.


88 posted on 12/01/2012 12:49:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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89 posted on 12/01/2012 12:55:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Renfield
Linguist Makes Sensational Claim: English Is a Scandinavian Language

It is now.

90 posted on 12/01/2012 4:15:30 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Renfield
..and now a massage from the Swedish Prime Minister
91 posted on 12/01/2012 4:19:19 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Renfield
“The Story of English” was a wonderful series on TV several years ago. The book is great, also. English is, indeed, a fascinating language and it is the language of the world today.
92 posted on 12/01/2012 9:32:11 PM PST by Swede Girl
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To: Renfield
“The Story of English” was a wonderful series on TV several years ago. The book is great, also. English is, indeed, a fascinating language and it is the language of the world today.
93 posted on 12/01/2012 9:32:11 PM PST by Swede Girl
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To: editor-surveyor
Sorry to have hurt your feelings, but the prophet Jeremiah led his troup through England and Ireland over 2500 years ago.

Oy vey!

94 posted on 12/02/2012 7:36:55 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: editor-surveyor; Gene Eric
About 1/3 of English vocabulary is Hebrew derived words.

I ask again; care to provide any credible substantiation for that claim?

Even if any Hebrews, Jeremiah in particular, travelled to England and Ireland over 2,500 years ago (and while an interesting “theory”, it is a nothing more than a myth invented by 19th century romantics and perpetuated by those who subscribe to the “Mystic” and “Magical” Ireland – i.e. “New Agers” and a few misguided Jews and Christians desperately wanting to trace themselves to one of the “Lost Tribes”), there is no trace of their (Hebrews) having any impact on the language and culture of those islands during that time.

As for your claim that Hebrew is a root language of English, I would point out to you that “English” even the most ancient of “Old English” dialects was not spoken in England and Ireland 2,500 years ago. They spoke one of several Celtic/Gaelic languages, many now extinct; branches of languages on the Indo-European language tree, languages that like Old English, German, Scandinavian and even French and Latin have more in common with Sanskrit and Persian languages than with Hebrew which is on the Afro-asiatic tree of languages. (And Gene Eric posted a very good graphic on this). And excepting for isolated pockets of Celtic/Gaelic languages that remain even today, the Germanic English replaced the Celtic/Gaelic languages with the Anglo-Saxon invasions and later the Norman Invasions when Anglo-Norman French/English started having a direct influence on the English language. Add to that the language of the Norse who contrary to popular misconception, did not simply raid and pillage England and Ireland but settled and some would even say “civilized” western England and many parts of Ireland. And we also see in the entomology of English, the extensive use of Anglo-Norman French and Latin among the nobility and highly educated. This is why we see so many diplomatic terms with French language origins and legal, medical and scientific terms with Latin roots and everyday words with a Germanic and or Norse origins. French became the language of diplomacy and Latin the language of the Christian Church and of science and English with its Anglo-Saxon Germanic roots, the language of the everyday. A few words of Celtic origin are found in modern English but very few and not nearly as many as one would expect.

And Hebrew words that made it into everyday English usage are very few and far between, many of them mostly localized to areas with substantial Jewish populations and with much later immigrants, and those Hebrew words that did come earlier are mostly found in common “Christian” names (John, Joshua, David, Mary, Sarah, etc.), and came to English well after the Christianization of Western Europe and via the Bible as translated into Greek or Latin and not as any direct influence of contemporary Hebrew speakers 2,500 years ago.

If what you claim were true, we should expect to see a profound influence of Hebrew on the Celtic languages and on place names in England and Ireland dating back 2,500 years or on the common names of that time period – which we simply don’t.

95 posted on 12/02/2012 2:11:13 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

Wow, this really diminishes your personal pride, huh?

Get a life.


96 posted on 12/02/2012 3:18:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Wow, this really diminishes your personal pride, huh?

No it doesn’t. I am in no way diminished by anything I said as I have evidence to back it up. But your response says a whole lot more about your personal pride when you make ridiculous and unsubstantiated claims and when challenged on them, all you can do is hurl personal insults and not provide anything, not even one scintilla of evidence or even a reasoned argument to defend your position. FWIW, you argue very much like a liberal.

Get a life.

I have a life and it is not in fantasy land. You might want to try it sometime.

97 posted on 12/02/2012 4:28:00 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: Yardstick

No.

It is because we are much smarter than the other scandies.

Duh.


98 posted on 03/14/2013 8:44:43 AM PDT by Eurotwit ("Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.")
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To: DesertRhino; Renfield; SunkenCiv; Jonty30; Jack Hydrazine; AnalogReigns; Tublecane; Wuli; x; ...

Fifty-five years ago when I was hanging around with English PhD students at university, they were all talking about being required to study Old Norse. So it was certainly recognized as important a long time ago. Then there is the part of eastern England which is called the Danelaw, because of the Danish influence there and its influence on the laws. Vikings also had an influence, but if the kind of legal scholarship that would have resulted in a name like “Danelaw” was present, it probably would have had more influence on structural things like grammar than the Vikings.


99 posted on 02/05/2016 9:54:48 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: BfloGuy; TexasRepublic; SunkenCiv; All

When my husband had to learn Spanish for an extended business trip to Latin America, we had a lot of fun with mistakes. For example, the verb, “to be able”—poder—is changed to puedo for I can, but my husband kept saying “no pedo” for I can’t which means “I don’t fart.” One morning he came to breakfast wanting orange juice—jugo de naranja—but asked for “juego de arana”, which translates “game of spider.” Then there was the time I was sick in bed when my Bolivian girlfriend called. I had overindulged with eating cake the night before at a party, and he said I was sick from eating demasiado caca. This translates as “too much shit”, rather than cake which is queque (or at least is pronounced like that). We had a lot of laughs as he learned.


100 posted on 02/05/2016 10:06:03 PM PST by gleeaikin
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