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To: qman

I only see two choices: emigration to another country or a movement of secession.

The first is an individual choice, the latter a risky political move.

The Cato Institute publishes a list of countries ranked by economic freedom. About a decade ago, we were third behind Hong Kong and Singapore. Today we are something like 18th. So there are a raft of countries to consider moving to, but that would entail a huge lifestyle adjustment. If you’re young, unmarried, and willing to try something new, you could go to New Zealand or Switzerland, both of which are small, prosperous stable countries, with no demographic problems, and higher in economic freedom than the U.S.

If the US declines economically or there is some other triggering event, then the idea of secession may take hold. There are all sorts of secessionist movements afoot in Europe right now.

If we had a truly federal country, as the founders established, with sovereign states, then it would matter much less who the president was and you could have a wide variation in policies between states. But with the leviathan federal government of today, that’s just not an option.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 1:50:21 PM PST by NKStarr
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To: NKStarr
If you’re young, unmarried, and willing to try something new, you could go to New Zealand or Switzerland, both of which are small, prosperous stable countries, with no demographic problems, and higher in economic freedom than the U.S.

I don't know about Switzerland, but having had a relative try to emigrate to New Zealand -- not now. Neither she nor her fiance could find any work. They are well-educated, and willing to take any kind of job. There apparently wasn't any to be found. They have since returned, but I expect them to look to leave again soon.
15 posted on 11/07/2012 1:59:55 PM PST by jjsheridan5
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