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To: Ray76

I resist posting negative things because no one can handle it. Sadly the crowd sizes don’t tell the whole story. I’ve attended huge rallies with wildly enthusiastic crowds for example for W, and he lost the state.

We like to forget on here that unfortunately there are huge masses of Americans who line up to vote dem no questions asked, or who are enthusiastic for Obama. This is the demographic revolution he is bringing about. This is why Romney isn’t ten points ahead. And we all have relatives who keep defending Obama and it’s maddening because he doesn’t deserve it.

If Obama wins I liken it to the outrage and tragedy of Clinton’s reelection and sadly I know it can happen.

Still, my prediction is a close to comfortable Romney win. Comfortable if places like Michigan, Minn, PA really are in play. If close, watch for the hispanic vote in places like Nevada, Ohio, etc. To screw us.


47 posted on 11/05/2012 6:31:07 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Andrei Bulba
You're right. Crowd size might be a good barometer of enthusiasm, or it could be nothing at all. McGovern played to massive crowds before his massive defeat in '72. Mondale was packing them in waning days of the '84 campaign. McCain in 2008? Not so much.

Even so, I'm much happier, and confident, seeing Mitt drawing massive crowds than Bamster's measly 2,800.

69 posted on 11/05/2012 6:56:18 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Andrei Bulba
I resist posting negative things because no one can handle it. Sadly the crowd sizes don’t tell the whole story. I’ve attended huge rallies with wildly enthusiastic crowds for example for W, and he lost the state.

Last night on FOX, Brit Hume said crowd sizes aren't a good predictor and that McGovern and Mondale had huge crowds right before they lost.

Byron York also said he attended both a Romney and Obama rally in Ohio this weekend and that he feels there is equal enthusiasm for both candidates now. This coincides with the Gallup poll saying Obama has closed the enthusiasm gap.

I think the Obama voters haven't paid much attention to the last 4 years at all or the campaign up to this point. They have short attention spans. But the Democrat GOTV has managed to gin them up in the last week and that's why the polls have tightened. I really don't think it's about the hurricane. It's also a result of Romney going soft in the last debate and his first and only decisive debate win becoming a distant memory. And it's a result of it being 2 weeks since a debate where Romney gets to appear unfiltered to the public. The media retook control in the last 2 weeks and got to back up Obama's campaign and make Romney into a cold and distant figure again. An easy Romney win has slipped away to a coin toss. This isn't an election anyone can predict at this point because the slightest move in either direction can decide it now.

My sense is the polls are usually right this close before an election. Romney has an uphill battle tomorrow to avoid narrowly losing most of the swing states and the election. This is the first electoral showdown between a now rejuvenated Obama-mania and the Tea Party revolt. It's too close to call but it's Romney's fundamental, long-term deficits as a candidate, some of them deserved, some undeserved, that are responsible for making the race as close as it is.

79 posted on 11/05/2012 7:45:04 AM PST by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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