I think it’s awesome how you used so many words yet didn’t answer the question.
Something tells me you don’t read the Bible but it’s a convenient way to bash Romney.
Romney isn’t perfect but he’s better than zero. Now, you can sit and sulk and claim that you don’t want to betray your conservative principles (I don’t believe you have any) so you’d rather see zero win, that way, the GOP will know they have to nominate a real conservative next time.
1) Something tells me you don’t have conservative principles anyway.
2) If you think voting for zero will help the GOP to nominate true conservatives, you’re wrong and are merely trolling.
3) Another term for zero is going to impact more than the evangelicals, after what he’s manage to do in only four years, the thought of him having another term is horrible.
“2) If you think voting for zero will help the GOP to nominate true conservatives, you’re wrong and are merely trolling.”
I don’t think that, and I would appreciate it if you stopped lying about my arguments and motivations. If you want to believe that Mormonism is comparable to Christianity, that’s fine. If you want to make Romney out to be a conservative, that’s fine. But don’t pretend that my disagreement on that means I am supporting Obama.
“Something tells me you don’t read the Bible but it’s a convenient way to bash Romney.”
Something tells me you don’t read the Bible, but it is a convenient way to praise Romney, which is why people keep comparing Mormonism to Christianity and claiming it is in fact Christian.
“3) Another term for zero is going to impact more than the evangelicals, after what he’s manage to do in only four years, the thought of him having another term is horrible.”
To be honest, the thought of 4 years, or possibly even 8 years, of “conservatives” fawning over Romney and proclaiming that Mormonism is Christian is downright horrible.
“1) Something tells me you don’t have conservative principles anyway.”
Tell that to yourself and Romney who is running on the Obama-lite platform. He even boasted during the primaries he was going to cut taxes on the “1 percent,” but now is fighting over Obama about who is more moderate and progressive. Romney’s central argument is that he likes big government but thinks he can do it more efficiently with the same “free-market” principles that allegedly inspired RomneyCare.
It always fascinates me to see how many “psychics” we have on FR. You just know to a certainty that anyone not supporting Romney due his Mormonism simply can’t be a real conservative, though their entire posting history, and personal history (if you knew it) would testify to the reality of their conservatism. It is the kind of self-delusion I had long associated with the left, and with some religious cults. But I had thought conservatives were conservative precisely because we were more capable, for whatever reason, of critical thought, of objective analysis, of true tolerance for a rich variety perspectives. Guess I was wrong.
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, some true conservatives may truly not be in a position to vote for either R or O without sincerely believing they would be offending God and violating their own conscience?
I think about my dad, my brother, my mother in this regard. They are all passed on to eternity. But they were American Christians as they were half a century ago. I was raised by them to put God and His word above every other consideration in making a decision. No, I didn’t always live up to that ideal, being a sinner. But it was the ideal held up for me and my siblings. And I can tell you most sincerely, my parents would never vote for either a Marxist, a Muslim, or a Mormon, as it was impossible for them to see how God, who is a jealous God, would approve of turning for help to a known enemy of God. It would have been an unconscionable betrayal of the faith.
And we had specific experience with Mormon “irregularities” that were to us clear deviations from Christian moral principles. While visiting a friend in Utah, my own mother, as my father’s bride, was approached by a Mormon young man and asked her maiden name. She found out later he did so to steal her from my “infidel” father, in terms of the afterlife, to include her in his celestial harem.
Do you really think any good conservative Christian, after that, and after learning of the Mormon rejection of the biblical doctrine of Christ, could be dragged into supporting such a person for political office, with all the trust and influence that entails? I can tell you with confidence my parents’ position would be the same as mine. This is simply who we are, who many Christians were, some 50 years ago. The Biblical teaching would forbid it, and no threat of dire consequences would have been sufficient to overcome that resistance. Fifty years ago, Mitt Romney would not have won in the primaries, let alone the general.
Bottom line, don’t blame us old-schoolers for being who we always were. It’s those around us who have changed. Unlike Romney, we would never allow any innocent unborn child to die, no matter the reason for their coming into being. Unlike Romney, we would never have even contemplated giving aid to the gay marriage movement. Unthinkable to us. Unlike Romney, we would never have constructed a health care system that deprived people of their basic freedoms, including freedom of conscience for health workers opposed to abortion (I was personally involved in that situation, after Mitt’s alleged conversion on the life issue).
And unlike Romney and his cheerleading squad here, we would never knowingly or willingly empower any politician who thinks he is a god. To us old timers, and really to anyone taking Mormon theology at face value, that would look too much like we were enthroning antichrist, who as Paul predicted would indeed have a god complex. Again, it is beyond us. We could not go there. We cannot go there now. We are sorry the choice is so hard, we are sorry for the difficulty this presents to good people who want to do the right thing. But we have no choice. This is where we have to stand. There simply isn’t anything else we can do.
Peace,
SR