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Walmart --- Can They Be Stopped? (vanity)
October 10, 2012 | me

Posted on 10/10/2012 8:09:47 AM PDT by Beowulf

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To: AnalogReigns

The “Free Market” spiel is almost always brought up when someone wants to challenge a new Walmart.

I have helped dissuade several Walmarts from locating somewhere by citing a “Free and equal” market does not give away the huge pot of incentives Walmart always demands when the competing local merchants get nothing. When Walmart does not get unfair concessions, they locate somewhere else.

Think about it - why should the local merchants already in existence, basically give money(tax abatements, etc.) to build competition to put themselves out of business?

That’s not a “Free and equal” market.


81 posted on 10/10/2012 10:03:29 AM PDT by techrules2002
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To: Go_Raiders

This is my weakness. The state I live in has bought much land to set aside for parks and conservation of wildlife. While I truly enjoy this, I know it is wrong at some level to use government in this manner.

If someone bought a piece of land and put something obnoxious there, my recourse would be to convince a jury that I have been harmed in some manner or buy the land myself or with a group.

The answer is not to use the force of government to harass a property owner with undue regulation on how they use their property when they are causing no one any harm.


82 posted on 10/10/2012 10:04:25 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: hal ogen
Why waste any energy on “stopping” Walmart? ALL of your energy should go into stopping pin-headed, moonbat LIBs. Unless...you are some sort of commie pinko in disguise.

Hey, I was just curious as to whether WalMart already owned the property in question. Kindly direct your disparaging comments to the originator of the thread, hal.

83 posted on 10/10/2012 10:05:55 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Beowulf

They found an Indian graveyard at the proposed Wal-mart site here. That pretty much killed it. They had to move a mile down the road.


84 posted on 10/10/2012 10:21:58 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: neverbluffer

Me? All I said was “God Almighty” in disgust.


85 posted on 10/10/2012 10:34:20 AM PDT by youngidiot (The name's Bond. James Bond. James Bond Jovi.)
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To: Beowulf
To the person without a job who goes to work at this new WM your arguments don't fly. To people who have seen their cost of living rise much faster than their wages (supposing they have a job)a lower cost store like WM helps to stretch their pittance a bit further.

As for “One can go in any direction from this spot and within two miles shop at an existing Walmart if one wanted to do so”, this is physically impossible. Just how many WM’s would that be?

86 posted on 10/10/2012 10:42:50 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: 1rudeboy
AlterNet?

Now THERE'S a reliable source.

87 posted on 10/10/2012 10:56:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (That was sarcasm, you moron.)
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To: Beowulf

I’m all for Wal-Mart.

Why are you here with an anti-business agenda that the unions support? This is something liberals would say and try to do.

I hope they win and build there. Just to tick off you NIMBY whiners who probably love HOA’s and the little Hitlers that run them, too.


88 posted on 10/10/2012 11:06:49 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Amagi

If mom and pop stores can’t compete, they deserve to go out of business.

Funny, I thought this site supported capitalism and free markets.

But I guess you buy into all this NIMBY crap the liberals do.


89 posted on 10/10/2012 11:07:11 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: central_va
You must be in a union. That sounds like their BS.
90 posted on 10/10/2012 11:07:22 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
You must be in a union. That sounds like their BS.

I am a professional engineer. No union for me.

91 posted on 10/10/2012 11:12:58 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Karl Marx was a globalist Free Trader too.

How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
--Ronald Reagan

Still in the ranks of the former, and not the latter, I see.
92 posted on 10/10/2012 11:15:24 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Answer this and we can continue: Would it make sense to totally off shore to China and else where all of our means of production? If not why? Surely the most efficient way to manufacture is to let third worlders do it. Nobody, I mean nobody, in the USA can compete with 2 bucks a day.


93 posted on 10/10/2012 11:21:24 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
No, let's stick to your fundamental misunderstanding of Marx and Marxism, first. Karl Marx believed that capitalism would lead to the inevitable triumph of the proletariat over the bourgeoisie. According to you, does that make Marx a champion of capitalism?

And to answer your question: no, it does not make sense to oppose the construction of a retail location in order to prevent off-shoring.

94 posted on 10/10/2012 11:28:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: GraceG
No, not for that sole reason alone, but the governemnt is supposed to be funded via tariffs not an income tax.

Income taxes are not unconstitutional.

16th Amendment. One of the last times an unconstitutional practice was made to be constitutional by amending the Constitution, the way it was supposed to be done.

This was before statists figured out they could just ignored the Constitution.

95 posted on 10/10/2012 11:31:37 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Charles Martel

My intention was commenting on the whole thread. Apologies.


96 posted on 10/10/2012 11:32:47 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Dan Nunn
I remember Tampa's North Dale Mabry Highway back in the day. A veritable rolling parking lot. State Senator John Grant even floated the idea of elevating a second road directly above it. Thank goodness that boondoggle never saw the light of day. Rush hour traffic only got bearable when the Veterans Toll Expressway finally siphoned off some traffic. It was as bad as the 405 to Simi Valley.

Has Dale Mabry Highway congestion really diminished such that traffic choke points can now be re-established?

Additionally, I wonder if this is a 24 hour Walmart and if so, whether residents in close proximity would welcome such an attraction to some of those who prowl the middle of the night in their neighborhood.

As for me, I would Hope not to see such a Change ever in my neighborhood.

97 posted on 10/10/2012 11:35:13 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: Tuanedge

So the thieves in Jacksonville know where to get desirable merchandise.

You can’t fault Walmart for the flash mob.


98 posted on 10/10/2012 11:40:04 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Beowulf

It never ceases to amaze me when FReepers oppose federalism, small government, subsidiarity, devolution of power, and local control - and then call themselves “conservatives”. (We used to say when I was a kid, “I’ll take this all the way to the Supreme Court if I have to!”)

You wanna try to keep Wal-Mart out? Go for it. Persuade your neighbors. It’s your community, after all, so it’s your decision.

As you’ve seen, opposing a business (no matter what the circumstances) really gets these faux conservatives worked up.

The only crime worse that that is supporting a home-owners’ association! :-)


99 posted on 10/10/2012 11:41:41 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Beowulf

Contact the local SEIU or UFCW office, they will put you in touch with people who will be glad to use you to help stop Wal-Mart.


100 posted on 10/10/2012 11:49:48 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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