A man and a woman were created to love each other and multiply. We all know that men poking men and women trying to poke women has nothing to do with what God nor nature has laid out for mankind. Homosexuality is wrong, therefor homos marrying is not even on the table.
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
1. I do not hate gay people. I understand that in a free democratic society they have rights to privacy and to live their lives in the manner they choose.
2. I think (but am not sure) that I am OK with civil unions.
3. However, I am radically against same sex marriage and the use of reproductive technology (IVF, sperm donation, surrogate wombs) to create their children. This has far reaching empirical and social ramifications. Ontologically, it is all afoul. Marriage is teleological and cannot be changed at its core.
4. Radical gay advocacy I find pernicious, destructive, arrogant, and divisive.
No child is born predisposed to become a criminal, an enginner, a lawyer or a candlestick maker any more than they are predisposed to be gay. All are a product of their environment and what they are taught in growing up.
I couldn’t give a rat’s posterior whether someone is gay or not. When the gay community sees it as my business that I know theirs is where I drew the line in the sand. When this whole thing started to come into the public dialogue, the gay community would not accept Civil Unions as a solution to transfer and share legal responsibilities. That told me there was an agenda and that agenda is to strike at the basic principles of what our society and culture was founded.
With that said, I have no more concern for your self induced plight as I did before your letting us know about it.
Sorry if I missed it in your diatribe, but this is not about marriage. The Chicken-Fil-A issue is about the intolerance the gay liberals have against TRUE freedom of speech.
Do you think bisexuals should be allowed to legally marry two people, one man and one woman?
Marriage is about reproduction. Most male/female couples can and will; male/male & female/female couples utterly can’t. “Gay marriage” is preposterous.
Maybe it’s something you can’t fully grasp untl you’ve had sex with intent of conception.
People that play in their poop repell me to my very core. There’s something broken in their brain. Not unlike sickos who go after children or animals.
Gay marriage is the ultimate line-in-the-sand. I won’t vote for a candidate who wavers even the slightest on this issue. Anyone open to such deviancy is someone I don’t trust on anything. If the courts try to impose it across the country, the whole country can crash-and-burn to oblivion as far as I care. I’d be supporting seccession.
Here’s your challange - without using the words “fair” or “equal rights” explain to us how society will be improved by changing the definition of marriage. WHat’s in it for the 96%
Here’s your challange - without using the words “fair” or “equal rights” explain to us how society will be improved by changing the definition of marriage. WHat’s in it for the 96%
You are not conservative.
When I was younger, I had a much more open mind.
But I’ve come to see that the ‘camel’s nose under the tent’ argument has merit.
Once homosexual marriage is accepted, polygamy will be 10 seconds behind that. There are already people using the gay lobbyist’s arguments for pedophilia and bestiality. (Don’t believe it will go that far? There are credible people arguing for infanticide and assisted euthanasia - without cause - right now, based on the arguments for abortion. The left will take it as far as they can push it.)
I’m sorry, but the left is NEVER satisfied. Ever. Women’s rights have been turned into women’s privileges. Abortion in specific situations has been turned into abortions for all at any stage of pregnancy. Divorce for abuse or infidelity as been turned into no-fault freebie divorce. Welfare for very poor, abused single mothers has become a massive welfare state. Don’t even get me started on the EPA and environmental movement.
There is no rational point where the radical left will be satisfied and say, “I did a good thing. My work here is done.” They will keep pushing until our entire society goes over a cliff.
I am a libertarian in the sense that I really do believe that it is an individual’s right to make poor choices and it’s not the duty of society to save them from themselves.
But I am conservative in the sense that I do believe that we do need some semblance of order in order to function as a healthy society. This is why EVERY society has a code of behavior that every individual must respect and obey.
I don’t hate gay people. I’m actually related to a gay man and he’s a great guy. My husband and I have a gay friend who’s one of the most loving, understanding people you’d ever met.
I don’t hate sinners. I have known and loved drug addicts and alcoholics and watched them make every excuse and justification for their behavior that they could come up with. I have held a sobbing woman with compassion after she fully realized the horror of her abortion. And this was after listening to her go on and ON for months about what a great ‘choice’ she made. (No, I didn’t guilt her into seeing what she had done. She did that all on her own.)
The Lord knows that I have my own faults.
So no, I don’t believe in regulating ‘sin’ or morality. The drug addict needs to find his own way into rehab. Nobody can force it.
But the primary function of marriage is to raise healthy, well-adjusted children into functioning adults. That is best done with a mother and a present father. Society honors this institution because it’s good for society.
I don’t support gay marriage for the same reason that I don’t support no-fault divorce and that I do support a 2 week waiting period before a couple says, “I do.” Marriage needs to be taken seriously as a sacred institution. We need a healthy family unit to maintain a healthy society. For the most part, it works.
I do not *think* - I do not *believe* - that gay marriage will open the door to every other perversion of the institution.
I KNOW IT WILL.
The show ‘sisterwives’ was the trial balloon for polygamy. NAMBLA is becoming more bold. Physicians at the AMA are openly discussing denial of medical care and euthanasia for our elderly.
These are things that nobody would dare openly address just a couple of decades ago. Now they have a voice that’s actually being given consideration.
We must push back.
I differ with you on the gay issues. I don’t hate gays, but get pretty upset they’d be so militant and in your face with their lyfestyle.
My views aren’t based on any moralism. Simply put, I view homosexuality as both disgusting and a sexual deviancy.
The push for gay marriage is also part of a larger effort to demand acceptance and approval of the gay lifestyle and of sexual freedom in all respects. To the degree that this effort has been and continues to be successful, it has undermined traditional morality, marriage, and family life and the cultural and legal support for them. The result is a world in which traditional marriages and families are unnecessarily stressed.
In consequence, a great many children now suffer from not being raised by their parents, married and living together in the same household, loving and vigilant in the care and protection of their natural offspring.
Our liberated age liberated not just mild mannered "squares" so they could explore their sexuality, but it also liberated predators. Thus sexual predation against children is more and more common. Two of the covert truths of the gay community is that many of its leaders were sexually abused as children, and that among gays, sexual attraction to young, even underage males is considered normal. There is thus also a growing effort by gays to lower the age of consent so as to facilitate what is near universally considered morally wrong.
For most conservatives, these trends are alarming and must be resisted. You are not obliged to agree, but you at least ought to understand the larger context, which you seem not to.
Gayness is imprinted, in my opinion, just as anti-gayness is imprinted.
Opinions that equate apples and oranges aren’t worth much to anyone. Opinions that further use technomedipsycological claptrap such as ‘imprinted’ as if it has an actual application in the matter under discussion are worth less.
There is no such thing as gay marriage - just as there is no such thing as a square circle.
“Being a hardcore constitutionalist, conservative, agnostic AND supporter of gay-marriage is not always easy.”
It is in fact, impossible. If you support gay marriage, you’re not a conservative, period. Since you’re agnostic, maybe this will get your attention:
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
That should be enough right there, aside from the fact that it offends Almighty God, from whom all natural rights come.