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To: Colofornian
You were created to become like Christ: Ephesians 4:17-32 One could easily use that as meaning many more that 200,000.

Here's a man not filled with hate for other religions:


Since Christians are known by their love, I have to ask are you a Christian?

86 posted on 06/30/2012 8:05:58 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: NoLibZone
Since Christians are known by their love, I have to ask are you a Christian?

(See post #93)

105 posted on 07/01/2012 4:41:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: NoLibZone
You were created to become like Christ: Ephesians 4:17-32 One could easily use that as meaning many more that 200,000.

Are you seriously becoming an apologist for Mormon polytheism? (We figure that'd happen with Romney's forthcoming nomination)

Since Christians are known by their love, I have to ask are you a Christian?

The love we display to the "rest of the world" (see verses below -- "everyone will know")...
-- based upon what? (How we "love one another")

34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” (John 13:34-35)

All of the "one another" passages in Scripture focus on brothers and sisters in the faith...not simply generic shotgun love rays placed at-large upon some digital medium.

So, lest I try to give you a self-edified "agape resume'" build-up, you'd have to ask the Christians around me (those who fellowship/worship/serve with me) that question. (The "one anothers" NoLibZone -- are fellow Christians with which we live out our Christian lives)

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Question for you, NoLibZone: Jesus was obviously known for His love...right?

Yet among the Pharisees and Teachers of the Law, what would you say was His reputation re: His commentary toward them?

If you had been a Pharisee/legalist in that day, and you had heard Jesus utter the following, how would you have interpreted these words?

* Matt. 16:12: ...guard against the yeast...against the TEACHING of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
* Luke 11:52: ... you have taken away the key to knowledge.
* John 8:44,47: You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies…The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.
* Matthew 23:2-4: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
* Mark 7:6-8,13:  He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: “‘These people honor me with their lips,    but their hearts are far from me. 7 They worship me in vain;  their teachings are merely human rules.’  8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.” …13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”

And, finally:
* Matthew 23:2-7, 13-34: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. 5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7 they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.
13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
  16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.

   23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

  25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

   27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

   29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!  

  33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.

So, my wrap-up questions -- NoLibZone -- of which I expect some answers:
* Based upon the above, are you guilty of trying to "outnice" Jesus?
* Are you then indeed "nicer than Jesus?"
* Was Jesus' "tough" love displayed toward the Pharisees still love?
* And 1 Corinthians 13 -- the love chapter -- says love rejoices in the truth (v.6). Do you rejoice in the truth -- even when that truth reveals less than stellar things about other religions? Or do you hide that truth and place it under a bushel?

106 posted on 07/01/2012 6:07:55 AM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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