Romney has given us reasons to vote against Obama, but what are his reasons to vote for him?

6/3/2012 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Is being AGAINST Obama enough reason to vote FOR Romney? (Caps for emphasis only). Obama's policies are to be loathed, but a emotional reaction that is fueling many to vote against Obama isn't enough reason to vote for Romney. Sound, cogent reasons are needed to vote FOR Romney:

Romney has repeated enough what Obama policies he is against, but has he given enough detail as to what polices he is for and spelled out line by line what exactly he will do as president and how?

1.) Romney will cut spending? Will Romney cut spending by $1.3 trillion per year - where Obama is right now above that taken in via taxes? Will Romney support any borrow and spend - ANY - or will he follow what was proposed by many Tea Partiers (among whom was Michelle Bachmann), that we should only spend what is taken in with taxes - with no borrow and spend at all? Will we continue to get the same old, same old?

2.) If Romney will end burdensome regulations that stifle business, will he couple this with a pledge that there will never be another banker bailout under his watch?

3.) He will enact Keystone XL legislation? How? Would he control all three branches all by his lonesome self? Does anyone honestly believe that Dems will be driven below 40 Senate seats, much less 43-44, if the remaining so-called "centrist" Senate Dems are ran out of office? What will Romney do when this is tied up in court for 10-20 years?

4.) Will there be no more Solyndra's under Romney's watch? But what about his support for the Massachusetts Green Energy Fund whereby when he was governor of Massachusetts tens of millions of dollars went to several "Solyndra's" that went belly up? Has he changed his spots?

5.) Will Romney keep to the Norquist pledge? If so, how could he support ANY federal subsidies going to oil companies much less "green energy" companies? The giving away of any federal handout/subsidies collectively shifts the burden to the taxpayer. Just as Stossel has reported many times, tens of billions of dollars (even hundreds) goes out in federal subsidies to a host of businesses (taking place for some time now under both Republican and Democrat administrations), thus violating the Norquist pledge.

[katana]

Supreme court justice Janet Napalitano
Supreme court justice Eric Holder
Supreme court justice Kathleen Sebelius

Like a 2x4 blow to the forehead, I find your argument very persuasive.

[MuttTheHoople]

So, can we compare Obama to Harvey Firestein?

[aruanan]

If the past 4 years of Obama were as bad as we said, then you have only the option of replacing him.

If you got to defeat Hitler, you are going to have to make Stalin your BFF.

In the U.S. political system, there is the Democrat candidate, the Republican candidate, and a whole bunch of other candidates such as the Temperance Party, the Communist Party, etc. The only one of these who is going to win is either of the first two. The extent that "conservatives" withhold their vote from the flawed Republican candidate is the extent to which they enable the Democrat candidate to require fewer votes to win.

Or as I put it earlier here:

"Don’t Get Suckered into Supporting the Republican Party" is exactly what folks like George Soros are saying. You can bet some of the biggest supporters (probably even financially if you could dig deep enough) of conservative third parties are liberal Democrats and other leftists who have taken over the Democrat Party and are busily at work to do the same to the Republican Party. They know that dividing the vote amongst a variety of "Hey, I'm more conservative than you cause I didn't vote for any Republican" nitwits is one their most effective ways to destroy their opposition and to solidify a political hegemony.

Over the past thirty years they have taken control of one of the two largest political parties in a country where winner takes all in elections and are busily working to fracture the only opposition they have by encouraging conservatives to leave the Republican Party in the hands of RINOS rather than working to take over the party apparatus as they, the Leftists, have taken over the Democrat Party. For those who say, "Well, I'm a proud member of the Constitution Party or the Declaration Party or the Conservative Party or the Southern Principled Conservative Party of Holy Ghost Fire on the Mountain Pre-Rapture Remnant of the Real Thing Party and someday we'll be big enough to replace the Republican Party, just like the Temperance Party or the Bull Moose Party did."

Doofuses: we don't live in a parliamentary system where representation is divided proportionally between the losers!

It's winner take all, baby, and the sooner you realize that and stop wasting time fighting like cats and Baptists to multiply the number of me-so-conservative parties the sooner you'll have turned back the liberal encroachment on the existing, main opposition party to their main vehicle for political power, the Democrat Party, instead of complimenting yourself on just how wonderfully more conservative your loser party is going to be than the one you deliberately abandoned to leftist takeover.

"Hey, I don't like these liberal bumper stickers on this fully functioning vehicle or the places its driver is taking us, right? So, I've got this great plan to deal with that, 'kay? Instead of tossing the driver out on his butt and getting some more appropriate body detailing and then driving it wherever we want to go, we're going to get out at the next corner, wag our fingers really hard at the driver as he speeds off, and then from scratch build our own new most perfectly conservative vehicle and, someday, maybe, enter that into the race! And won't that glorious day be, oh, so grand?"

And you think Jesus (or anyone else) is going to say, "Well done, good and faithful servant for refusing to take back the existing opposition party and, instead, throwing your vote to something that couldn't possibly defeat a known enemy because you thought being considered a more nearly "true" conservative party than any other was more important than actually conserving and preserving the Republic against an ongoing enemy onslaught"?

Dream on.

[MaxMax]

Romney will BS everyone just as Obama is doing, we'll have
to elect him to see what he will do, first.

[aruanan]

I will not vote for Romney or the Kenyan bastard if a gun were put to my head.

Then thanks in advance for providing Obama with one less vote he needs to overcome to win. See my previous post right above as to why this is.

[noinfringers2]

I can go with you for much of what you said. However, somethings stick in my memory. One is that no matter how he and others spin it Romney-care was/is a pattern for Obama-care which certainly needs to be over with. Also ,if my recall is accurate, Romney’s father on returning to the USA from Mexico and becoming head American Motors rubbed elbows with the Alinsky gang in Chicago. That was the same crowd that Bill Ayres’ father who was CEO of Con Edison was cozy with. If Mitt would come out against the Chicago cabal of Ayres, Dornan, Alinsky, Axelrod. Jarret, etc. it would go a long way towards easing my feelings Mitt is not soft with the Chicago style of governance. And if Mitt would take West as his running mate I could veer towards believing he truly wanted an undoubtedly true NBC with capability to be a POTUSA. I recall that Truman was an Army captain and West was a Lt. Col. so West should be able to handle the CiC position.

[pallis]

I would certainly have no problem with Allen West as VP or President. West is still a young fellow, and has many years of excellence to bring to the table. Whomever Romney picks, he or she will be better than Biden. The only person who could be worse than Biden would be Biden.

[jaydee770]

...but what are his reasons to vote for him?

Regardless of his lack of conservative bonafides, and it may be unfortunate, but Romney remains the leading alternative to Obama.

If there is another candidate, scheme, plot, or miracle that can take the lead from Romney, somebody/anybody please come out and state it or make your case as to how Romney can be bested at this point and Obama unseated. You need to come up with someone that conservatives, republicans, moderates, independants and some right-leaning dems will vote for instead of Romney. Like it or not, conservatives aren't the only folks who vote. We remain outnumbered by all the other demographics who also register as "Republican".

For this election, it appears the choice has been made (barring any unforseen miracles - and I'll take any) and we have to play the hand we've been dealt as best we can. So, why not begin an immediate call to primary Romney? We have four years to get our act together.

We all need to choose: lead, follow or get out of the way.

[Diogenesis]

Milt is a backstabbing cheating poser.

Milt has UNDER 700 delegates at this point.

Milt CANNOT win, and was PLACED in this position
by the MSM, the GOPe, RNME, and the DNC.
Can you quess why?

[W. W. SMITH]

If each, Obama and Romney, get only their solid base then Goode would win with 40%.

[jaydee770]

Milt is a backstabbing cheating poser.

Thank you Captain Obvious for re-stating what everybody has known since prior to the beginning of the primary. You aren't telling us anything we don't already know and moaning about Romney on F.R. is preaching to the choir.

Milt CANNOT win

Don't look now, but "Milt" is well on his way to winning with 1169 delegates & has over a 4 million popular vote lead. He (frustratingly) enjoys the support of veritably all politically-right registered voters who aren't solid conservatives. In case you haven't been paying attention, we who are solidly to the right failed to get our act together and unite behind a more conservative candidate. We got our butts handed to us. We are outnumbered by all the "other" voters aligned against Obama: Libertarians, moderates, centrists, RINO's, right-leaning dems, etc, etc, you get the picture. Conservatives are unfortunately a minority on the "Right". *WE* have to fix that and grow our numbers some how, some way. *WE* have that burden. The feckless, malfeasant GOP sure ain't going to help us.

But you on the other hand sound like a perfectly reasonable, rational voter who refuses to be ruled by his emotions -- who is your sure-thing candidate that can overcome all the folks who are supporting the GOP candidate/Romney? What is your plan to get another more acceptable candidate out ahead of the GOP candidate/Romney? MOST importantly, What is your plan to unseat Obama? For GOD's sake, don't sit on any info like that if you have it!! Spill it and let's get to work!

But, it could be you are just as clueless as I am about how to get a viable alternative ahead of the GOP candidate/Romney. Except perhaps I realize that moaning, complaining, carping and mere insults are *NOT* going to accomplish a single thing. I highly doubt it will even make you feel the least bit better unless you can lie to yourself convincingly, from Nov 06, 2012 onward.

It's time to lead, follow or get out of the way.

[CharacterCounts]

What you say is true, but we need to get a candidate to win a primary, first.

The chance of that happening with the current GOP system is somewhere between slim and none, with none in the lead.

[CharacterCounts]

Two questions:

Why did you only list three reasons?

[BO Stinkss]

I left room for you to add one!

[Diogenesis]

So YOU think you can improve things by BOWING ON YOUR
KNEES to a known liar who helps Obama and Soros?

Romney CANNOT win. HE IS A CHEATER.
HE DOES NOT HAVE THE DELEGATES YOU CLAIM,
and if the GOP takes him to represent them,
THE ENTIRE TICKET IS RUINED.

[Diogenesis]

So YOU think you can improve things by BOWING ON YOUR
KNEES to a known liar who helps Obama and Soros?

Romney CANNOT win. HE IS A CHEATER.
HE DOES NOT HAVE THE DELEGATES YOU CLAIM,
and if the GOP takes him to represent them,
THE ENTIRE TICKET IS RUINED.

[jaydee770]

So YOU think you can improve things by BOWING ON YOUR KNEES to a known liar who helps Obama and Soros?

How am I bowing on my knees if my sole focus is unseating Obama so we don't end up with:
SCOTUS Justice K. Sebelius
SCOTUS Justice J. Napolitano
or worse?

You honestly think you are helping anything? Your attitude appears to be "Damn the country, I didn't get my way so I'd rather watch it burn to the ground, just so I can say 'Told you so' like a petulant child."

Well, you can roll-over and quit if you like, but I choose to keep fighting with the best and only viable choice remaining. If you have another more viable choice, name it. Put up or shut up. The childish tantrums you insist on wallowing in aren't productive and helps no one, not even yourself.

Lead, follow or get out of the way. Your infantile hissy-fit is just getting in the way of those who choose to keep doing whatever we can with the piss-poor hand we've been dealt.

Romney CANNOT win. HE IS A CHEATER. HE DOES NOT HAVE THE DELEGATES YOU CLAIM

If you have proof, then *DO* something about it! Otherwise, bitching about it accomplishes nothing.

And it's not *me* that's making those claims, it's most any web-site that bothers to track running delegate counts. Just google "Delegate count" and pick your poison.

Again, lead, follow or get out of the way. My choice is to follow the most viable candidate available that stands the best chance at defeating Obama. If you don't think that is the GOP candidate, then quit your bitching and convince us about your "sure thing" candidate that can best the GOP candidate. Like I said, I'm voting for he candidate who stands the best chance. You've got until Nov 5th, 2012 to get it done. So, don't just stand there, *do* something. Otherwise, you're just background noise.

Your choice: Lead, follow or get out of the way.

[CharacterCounts]

You keep bring up the Supreme Court appointments, but there is scant evidence that Romney appointments will be conservative.

In fact moderate Republican Presidents have a history of appointing left leaning Justices.

I predict, you are going to be very disappointed when Romney makes his first appointment.

[Diogenesis]

So YOU want everyone to IGNORE what Mr. RomneyCARE
has already done about Judges. Like you?

Probe: Mitt missed chance to keep Tavares jailed - Could have nixed killer’s early exit

Friday, December 28, 2007 - Boston Herald
"Former Gov. Mitt Romney’s administration failed to act on disciplinary recommendations
that would have kept ex-con killer Daniel Tavares locked up another year -
and behind bars at the time he was accused of killing a newlywed couple in Washington state."

"Despite Tavares’ long history of violence, the Romney-led Department of Correction
took no action on recommendations that he be stripped of “good time” because
of assaults on prison guards in 2003 and 2005, said sources familiar with a state probe into the case."

Once again as Romney let conservatism slide (never had it anyway)
Romney made certain that they died.

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"Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans,
has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced,
instead tapping registered Democrats or independents -- including two gay lawyers who
have supported expanded same-sex rights, a Globe review of the nominations has found.
Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats
or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians
or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show.
In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters,
and 14 registered Democrats."
- Boston Globe 7/25/2005

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Romney Rewards one of the State's Leading Anti-Marriage Attorneys by Making him a Judge
Romney told the U.S. Senate on June 22, 2004, that the "real threat to the States is not the
constitutional amendment process, in which the states participate,
but activist judges who disregard the law and redefine marriage . . ."
Romney sounds tough but yet he had no qualms advancing the legal career of one
of the leading anti-marriage attorneys. He nominated Stephen Abany to a District Court.
Abany has been a key player in the Massachusetts Lesbian and Gay Bar Association which,
in its own words, is "dedicated to ensuring that the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court decision
on marriage equality is upheld, and that any anti-gay amendment or legislation is defeated."
- U.S. Senate testimony by Gov. Mitt Romney, 6/22/2004 P>

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"Romney announces he won't fill judicial vacancies before term ends
Despite his rhetoric about judicial activism, Romney announced that
he won't fill all the remaining vacancies during his term - but instead
leave them for his liberal Democrat successor!
Governor Mitt Romney pledged yesterday not to make a flurry of lame-duck
judicial appointments in the final days of his administration . . . David Yas,
editor of Lawyers Weekly, said Romney is "bucking tradition" by resisting the urge to
fill all remaining judgeships. "It is a tradition for governors to use that power to appoint judges
aggressively in the waning moments of their administration," Yas said.
He added that Romney has been criticized for failing to make judicial appointments.
"The legal community has consistently criticized him for not filling open seats quickly enough
and being a little too painstaking in the process and being dismissive of the input of the
Judicial Nominating Commission," Yas said.
- Boston Globe 11/2/2006

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