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To: Seizethecarp
Some thoughts on Mitt Romney and the Natural Born controversy:

1.Obama's younger half-sister was born in Indonesia to an Indonesian citizen, Soetoro.

2. Was Obama's mother still an American citizen at the time of the birth?

3. If Obama's mother was still a United States citizen when her daughter was born in Indonesia, did it mean that the daughter was automatically an American citizen, or did Obama's mother have to go to the American embassy in Indonesia to fill out special papers to obtain American citizenship for her daughter?

4. My point is this: If George Romney, Mitt's father, was born in Mexico to two American citizens, then I would think that George was automatically an American citizen at the time of his birth in Mexico. However, I don't understand how the Natural Born requirement applies to George.

5. Does anyone know if George's parents gave up their American citizenship when they moved to Mexico, or did they still retain their American citizenship while living in Mexico like Obama's mother may have retained her American citizenship while living with her Indonesian husband in Indonesia?

6. George's parents obviously returned to the United States, because I don't see any evidence that they had any trouble whatsoever in entering the country, so I don't think that they had to sneak into the country because they may have given up their American citizenship when they left the United States earlier and settled in Mexico.

7. EXAMPLE: Tim Tebow, the famous National Football League young quarterback with the New York Jets:

a. He was born in the Philippines to two American citizens in the Philippines doing missionary work.

b. Could Tebow run for President?

c. TEBOW's CHILD: If Tebow gets married to an American citizen and they have a child that is born in the United States, could the child run for President, even though Tebow was born in the Philippines? I would think so, because, in my opinion, the child would have been born in the United States to two American citizens.

8. As I compare the Tebow situation to the Mitt Romney situation, I thought about this: If Mitt Romney's father, George, was born in Mexico to parents who were still United States citizens, and he, George, later had a son, Mitt, who was born in the United States to a mother who was born an American citizen, then I don't see how Mitt should have any problems meeting the Natural Born requirement.

9. That is, if Tebow's child would have no problem meeting the Natural Born requirement, then I don't see why Mitt Romney would have any trouble meeting the Natural Born requirement.

78 posted on 05/29/2012 11:15:27 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: john mirse

Thanks for mapping out each of these points.


79 posted on 05/30/2012 12:42:09 AM PDT by thecodont
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