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To: JustSayNoToNannies; Altariel
"what's your view?"

The entire direction of argument is invalid. Nothing has proven that this rises to the level of "oppressing the innocent or failing to condemn such oppression,..." let alone of "...not repenting of same..." This is all his opinion (and perhaps yours), but is not biblical evidence.

That A doesn't like a firm hand by LOE might be interpreted as a self-made righteousness which is far more insidious and demonic than any police action in the US. He believes, "I prefer that government agents are more concerned with basic decency and the Constitutional rights of others than they are about “going home safely”." I prefer that the men go home safely and the bad guy's kids suffer a bad night of fear. Perhaps this will be a reminder of what daddy does wrong.

No one has proven this is "oppressive" or "terrorizing" anyone. And, if he thinks being in the shoes of the LOE is so simple, he should pick up a badge and show us how easy it really is. Until then, it is blather. And such self-important errors have been absolutely described by Jesus as evil. What will God do in His wrath with "whitewashed" tombs? Clean on the outside, filthy on the inside but proud of it.

187 posted on 05/24/2012 3:06:01 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Pointing weapons at children is not displaying a “firm hand” but shows a callous disregard for their lives.

I note that you continue to be concerned with defending servants of the government, regardless of their behavior, regardless if they show a lack of fear of God in threatening to murder children.

I note that Christ had a particular concern for children.


189 posted on 05/24/2012 8:14:27 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Dutchboy88

Pointing weapons at children is not displaying a “firm hand” but shows a callous disregard for their lives and their well-being—a disregard that can one day may blossom into an open willingness to shoot children even as dogs are now shot.

I note that you continue to be concerned with defending servants of the government, regardless of their behavior, regardless if they show a lack of fear of God in threatening to murder children. Unquestioning devotion to government, even when they do wrong in the sight of the Lord, is worship of government, not of Yahweh.

I note that Christ had a particular concern for children. His attitude is one of which we need more in our society.


190 posted on 05/24/2012 8:24:13 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Dutchboy88

I find it fascinating that, failing to provide a reasonable defense for government employees for threatening to murder children torn from their beds, you attempt to change the subject.

Is it because you recognize that there is no defense for what they have done, that it had nothing to do with their safety or the safety of any other American, but was a callous threat to murder the children for that which their parents stood accused, but had not been tried?


192 posted on 05/24/2012 8:40:28 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Dutchboy88

How about the screams of the two year old boy. Was he not terrorized?

Was his twelve year old sister no less terrorized as she woke to realize that armed men were in her house and were not permitting her own brother to be given to his mother to be comforted as best could be done under the circumstances?

Do you think for a moment that she did not wonder whether the men pointing guns at herself and her family would open fire, killing herself and her family?

I’d call that a “terrorizing” situation for adults, much less children.

Only someone who worships Government and her Agents would find such treatment of children justifiable.


197 posted on 05/25/2012 6:57:03 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Dutchboy88
That A doesn't like a firm hand by LOE might be interpreted as a self-made righteousness

Your posts also "might be interpreted as a self-made righteousness" - be careful with two-edged swords.

I prefer that the men go home safely

If they value their own perceived safety over the well-being of children, I don't want them on my police force; your mileage may vary.

and the bad guy's kids suffer a bad night of fear. Perhaps this will be a reminder of what daddy does wrong.

No one has proven this is "oppressive" or "terrorizing" anyone.

So it's not terrorizing a child to point a gun at him, and it's an appropriate way to remind him what daddy (ov er whose actions he has no control and limited influence) does wrong. I'll simply let those statements speak for themselves.

And, if he thinks being in the shoes of the LOE is so simple

Where did he say that? Scripture has a few things to say about lying and bearing false witness.

205 posted on 05/25/2012 8:10:27 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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