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What We Are Left With - Is Ron Paul Better or Worse Than Romney?

Posted on 05/08/2012 7:23:22 AM PDT by redinIllinois

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To: rightwingextremist1776

Any man who can not recognize the danger of crazies like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad getting their hands on nuclear weapons no matter what his stands are on other issues has shown a complete lack of understand of the nature of evil and a naiveté which should to any sane and reasonable person exclude him from holding the office of President.


81 posted on 05/08/2012 10:09:41 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Exactly my point to a T.

No real conservative would even THINK of such madness.


82 posted on 05/08/2012 10:19:58 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Ingtar

That policy is being questioned by the delegates involved in the mess. The binding of delegates was a 20th Century manifestation that was only an unwritten rule. Delegates to the convention in prior years voted as they saw fit.
Prepare for heavy weather during the long hot summer of revolution.


83 posted on 05/08/2012 11:09:56 AM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the communityÂ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: STD

It is not an unwritten rule, but a written one. See 15(a) (1) - (4).


84 posted on 05/08/2012 12:35:22 PM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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To: CommieCutter

I intended to vote RP in 2008——as I do now—however, it turned out in Fla they would not have counted my write-in vote for RP, so I took RP’s advice and voted for Chuck Baldwin—Glad i did, and glad i will!

Semper Watching!
*****


85 posted on 05/08/2012 1:12:51 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: rightwingextremist1776; Kartographer

“Any man who can not recognize the danger of crazies like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad getting their hands on nuclear weapons no matter what his stands are on other issues has shown a complete lack of understand of the nature of evil and a naiveté which should to any sane and reasonable person exclude him from holding the office of President.”
“ “”Exactly my point to a T.

No real conservative would even THINK of such madness.”” “

This country is about to go over a financial cliff.

We are borrowing 40 cents of every dollar the federal government spends.

That’s madness, too.

Israel may have to act on their own take out Iran’s nuke sites.

We don’t have any good options left.


86 posted on 05/08/2012 1:28:34 PM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: redinIllinois

Mittens would have the support of both parties for whatever socialist scheme that would make Ted Kennedy’s ghost happy. They would all bind together to make sure Paul got nothing.

Lawdy, lawdy!


87 posted on 05/08/2012 3:01:19 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: glennaro
"So, to be clear, for all practical purposes you are supporting Obama's re-election (presumably so that you will feel good about not compromising your principles)"

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I believe the short sighted hand wringing sky is falling approach damages the conservative cause in the long run.

Standing on principle does not always feel good and is not always easy and in fact can be painful, but in the long term it is IMNSHO the best approach to promote the conservative cause (otherwise known as tough love)

I really do hope Mitt beats BO but since he does not remotely represent my values he will have to win without my vote.

I will not be cajoled into voting for someone who goes against everything I believe and stand for.

I will stand accountable to the Ultimate Authority for everything I put my stamp of approval on and no boogieman can scare me more than facing my Maker and trying to explain why I approved of sin and immorality.

The blood of 54 million brutally slaughtered American citizens will not be upon my hands on that day.

Even if billions are killed as a result of this election that will not be on my head.

It will be on those who willfully participated in evil, not those who opposed it.

Even if it costs my life and the lives of my children I will not put my approval on that which God opposes.

Anything less would be hypocritical and cowardly.

High stakes indeed. Feeling good about not compromising does not enter into the equation.

88 posted on 05/08/2012 4:02:34 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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To: Manic_Episode
Even if it costs my life and the lives of my children I will not put my approval on that which God opposes.

The problem is you are determined to think of your vote as somehow "approving" of a candidate. It isn't. Voting is not an affirmative endorsement of a politician, it is a choice between options available at that moment. You can cast a general election ballot for candidate John Doe on Tuesday and immediately go to work the following day to defeat elected official John Doe in the next party primary.

It's no different than choosing the least annoying route to work in the morning. You're not "approving" of the side roads instead of the main road, you are just choosing the best alternative available at the moment.

89 posted on 05/08/2012 8:02:04 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: redinIllinois
“In signing the Personhood Pledge, however, Paul issued an ‘addendum’ in which he reiterated his position that life begins at conception, said he supported a human life amendment to the Constitution, but at the same time argued that the federal government should not interfere with the states in passing laws on abortion.”

Absent said Amendment, that RP supports in your own quote, there is no Federal power to regulate abortion. For, or against. This is why Murder statutes are State crimes. You are also obfuscating his expressed desire to over turn Roe V Wade which removes the FedGov from the question of States passing their own bans on murdering the unborn.

There is no need to lie about RP to come up with unappetizing stuff about him. His isolationist stance for our military for starters...

But just keep showing yourself for being a troll. It's funny in a pathetic and sad kind of way.

90 posted on 05/09/2012 7:55:06 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: redinIllinois
Weird... Not sure how I clicked the wrong "Reply" button.

Was supposed to be over here...

www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2880838/posts?page=70#70

My bad...

91 posted on 05/09/2012 7:58:30 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Longbow1969
Here in the US someone can be convicted of murder without ever having actually killed anyone, but because they were "in on it" they are guilty of conspiracy to commit murder.

In order to be guilty of conspiracy to commit murder a prosecutor must prove 3 elements to gain a conviction.

1.) The defendant intended to agree and did agree with someone to commit murder;

2.) At the time of the agreement, the defendant and [one or more of] the other alleged member[s] of the conspiracy intended that one or more of them would commit murder;

3.) (The/One of the) defendant[s] of coparticipant[s] or (both/ all) of them] committed [at least one of] the overt act[s] alleged to accomplish the murder;

Examples of this crime would be hiring a hitman. The person paying for the murder is just as guilty as the hitman.

Charles Manson claims he never killed anyone but he has been in prison for nearly 40 years for conspiracy.

WHEN SYSTEMS COLLIDE

Abortion is a perfectly legal murder in mans criminal justice system, but I submit that in Gods criminal justice system it is a sin of the most heinous sort, one that brutally ends the life of our most vulnerable and innocent members to the tune of a staggering 54 MILLION VICTIMS in the US alone, and counting.

Those directly responsible are quite obvious, but what of the coparticipants? Those that have conspired against these 54 million vulnerable innocent crime victims? It takes a massively wide conspiracy of unbelievable proportions to accomplish a crime of this unfathomable magnitude.

I submit that all those who keep this sin legal are just as guilty as those who are direct participants.

Abortion is a main plank of the Democratic platform. When you vote for a party you are putting your seal of approval on that platform. You are agreeing and supporting their goals when you cast your vote for their party.

In my mind if I vote for anyone who is pro-choice I would become a co-participant to whatever they put their stamp of approval on.

Which route I take to work has not cost anyone their lives.

Not even once, let alone 54 million times. The hand wringing bed-wetters sniveling about the boogieman means nothing to me.

I answer to a higher authority.

92 posted on 05/09/2012 3:31:13 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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