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(VANITY) Suggestions needed to help a homeless man
Mar. 17th, 2012 | God-fear-republican

Posted on 03/17/2012 12:35:46 PM PDT by God-fear-republican

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To: GiovannaNicoletta; God-fear-republican
I would begin with calling Social Services

Very good advice! Along with calling the local social service office, try Lutheran Social services, or any place that houses the homeless. Even if they can't personally help, they will guide you. I worked for a non profit social service agency, and we kept phone numbers on hand to help these kinds of people. I also did some personal networking to find blankets, furnishings, and etc., for them. Along the way, there sometimes someone who had all the right answers.

21 posted on 03/17/2012 2:13:05 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I agree with the part about contacting your county social services agency. They have the resources to help him.

Do not bring him to your house.


22 posted on 03/17/2012 2:18:14 PM PDT by moviefan8
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To: Jaidyn

The Lord’s Hand is all of this, many thanks!


23 posted on 03/17/2012 2:28:30 PM PDT by God-fear-republican
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To: God-fear-republican
About the time he was 2 years old was the last time for easy intervention. At this point, his life is like a massive logjam and the alcohol is used to help him get his mind off his problems. There is no easy solution to what ails him but no solution is possible until he sobers up.
24 posted on 03/17/2012 2:34:45 PM PDT by fso301
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To: God-fear-republican

Get a third party, preferably a private party, preferably through a private charity, to do the following:
1. Background check
2. Credit check
3. You have to get him to agree to see a doctor, preferably a primary care physician, or a mental health counselor. You also have to get him to agree to allow a trusted third party (also a mental health field pro) to have access to his HIPAA medical/mental health records. You either do this or you have to hand this off to the state or a private charity. You, and not you alone, for legal reasons, pick a few people in your study group to make a decision, decide on further action based on the advice of the attending physician and your 2nd opinion doc.

4. Get him a annual physical, pay for it out of pocket.

After you are done healing with his mind and body, start working on his soul.

i.e. A guy with a drinking problem and diabetes needs insulin before the Word.


25 posted on 03/17/2012 2:36:49 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: God-fear-republican; humblegunner

That one can be ignored for most discussions unless you pimp a blog.


26 posted on 03/17/2012 2:44:17 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: God-fear-republican
Opening your house to a stranger is dangerous. Opening your house to a stranger who is mentally unstable, a convicted felon and possibly an alcoholic is a real bad idea. It's nice to help people but don't jeopardize your own safety to do it. Just think about all the people who were hurt or even killed while trying to help someone in need. Stay safe no matter what you do.
27 posted on 03/17/2012 2:48:34 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: God-fear-republican

He needs work. Are you near a Goodwill or Salvation Army....


28 posted on 03/17/2012 2:53:41 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: eyedigress

Yes, I will check Goodwill. Mitt been at salvsation army for bread and soup.


29 posted on 03/17/2012 2:56:46 PM PDT by God-fear-republican
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To: God-fear-republican

Goodwill can provide a job for a place to sleep. He must understand that his drinking days are over. Without that understanding, it is pointless.


30 posted on 03/17/2012 3:02:42 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: God-fear-republican

He doesn’t want to use the local shelter because they won’t let him to come in under the influence.

What sort of shelter would you open? One where the residents can be high or drunk?

If he’s not willing to be sober for a night, he is missing step one. Why enable him to stay drunk? This does not help a man, it hurts him.


31 posted on 03/17/2012 3:06:22 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: God-fear-republican

“Mitt is quite knowledgeable in Scripture.”

I don’t mean to slander Mitt, but Satan also knows the Bible well. Knowledge of the Bible, while impressive, does not mean you are saved.

It sounds like Mitt might lean towards Christianity in some from but is unwilling, some may say unable, to give up alcohol.


32 posted on 03/17/2012 3:09:33 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: humblegunner

Hey...what is the first rule?


33 posted on 03/17/2012 7:59:58 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: God-fear-republican

Vet him as if he was going to be your President. Check his story, all of it. Find out if he has friends. If he was living with mom then he should have plenty of friends in his neighborhood to vouch for him.

I have many years of working with the homeless. Do NOT let them into your home, especially if you have a family. Do NOT give them money unless it is done in a dispassionate obedience in the spirit, not from being swayed by a sob-story heart-tug.

There is so much money and help and food and shelter available to aid the truly needy 100 times over. That he will not avail himself of it is a big ol’ red flag.


34 posted on 03/17/2012 8:08:55 PM PDT by JoanVarga ("Yes We Can" It's not just a slogan. It's a threat.)
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To: JoanVarga

Many thanks! I will ask Mitt to lay out his case but trying to do it in a dignifying manner.


35 posted on 03/17/2012 8:18:40 PM PDT by God-fear-republican (Many thanks to all who have given me advice. Incredible outpour! Very touched!)
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