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To: El Sordo
“That's not the issue!”
And that's one glaring reason Birthers never get anywhere. A clear and concrete example that runs contrary to their fervent desire is simply ignored.

So, not only do you NOT grasp the fundamentals of the issue, you are going to define it for me!!??? Your "clear, concrete" example simply states the same blather. At issue is whether or not BHO meets the qualifications to be POTUS as established by the Constitution. It doesn't matter whether or not he came from a one-parent household or he was raised by a family of orangutans, the issue is the wording "natural born citizen". A natural born citizens is one, both of whose parents are American citizens and who was born on American soil. BHO's father, as BHO proudly proclaims, was NEVER an American citizen, he was a British citizen from Kenya!

And your reading of the 14th amendment is simply way out in left field. Another reason that Birthers have not gotten anywhere and will never get anywhere.

Ok, if MY reading of the 14th Amendment is "way out in left field" how do you feel about the Supreme Court's reading of the 14th Amendment and THEIR definition of "natural born citizen"?

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

“The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts…..”

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/minorvhapp.html

This is precedent on the meaning of NATURAL Born Citizen. This Minor v. Happersett has NEVER been overruled.

Barack Hussein Obama claims the Barack Hussein Obama Sr. as his birth father. His father was a British citizen from Kenya and never became a U.S. citizen.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

78 posted on 02/05/2012 8:52:22 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment
Exactly the same circumstances (CAA was born in the US to an American mother and British father), but not the issue.

Sure.

Regarding Minor...

Do some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents?

As to this class have there been doubts?

For the purposes of that case was it necessary to solve these doubts?

79 posted on 02/05/2012 9:24:43 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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