Posted on 04/02/2011 5:17:39 PM PDT by Germanicus Cretorian
Naill of the Nine Hostages - You know, I think everyone from that area of Europe is descended from him.!
When I was first tracing my history, Malcolm II of Scotland and Naill were the first royalty I found. It was very exciting.
You'll notice that in the USA the onliest relatives claiming this guy as blood kin are white. Blacks reject the idea they could be relatives.
The surname Kennedy is very common in Ayrshire (SW Scotland), which is where many of the Protestant settlers in Ireland came from. So a Kennedy in the US is often of Scots-Irish ancestry. I don’t know if further back in the Middle Ages the Scottish Kennedy family and the Irish Kennedy family were related.
I did the research to get my mother into the DAR. I found some distant cousins of hers who had joined the DAR under their common ancestor, and she joined under that ancestor. I now think that the records that were accepted for that ancestor's Revolutionary War service were for a different man of the same name, not even related to our ancestor (unless related way back in England) and that our ancestor was living in a different state at the time of the Revolutionary War.
The first person to join the DAR under that ancestor was a prominent lady and they may have been less inclined to scrutinize the evidence too closely in her case--but I think there were many cases of sloppy research in the early years. My understanding is that they are now much stricter in their standards of proof.
I know the SAR is very demanding in requiring proof of the ancestor's service and in proving descent every generation down to the person who wants to join.
When I first got started I wrote to a great-aunt whom I had never met and told her what I was doing--she acted as if joining the DAR was the last thing she would ever think of doing. It may be that the Marian Anderson debacle caused many women to write off the DAR as a group they wanted nothing to do with (although my great-aunt didn't specifically mention that). That was a blunder by one person or a few individuals in the organization but it gave the whole society a negative image at least in many people's minds.
“Dutch wasn’t foreign in New York whereas English was.”
You’re right - I’d have been more accurate if I’d said ‘language other than English’ instead of ‘foreign language’.
The German spoken in Pennsylvania, and other places, for instance, is older than the United States of America, even if people have been lynched here for speaking German in modern times. Delaware still has the colors of Sweden in its state flag from the time they were their colony and Swedish was spoken in the area. And Washington commended the support he had in the Revolution from Americans of Irish origin whose first, and preferred, language was Gaelic, but you’d not get that impression here from some posters.
I read that during the Revolutionary War, when the Continental Army was staying in an area with a lot of German speakers, one of the officers got the idea he would like to hear German spoken, so he went to a German church for Sunday services. Afterwards he remarked that German wasn’t that much different from English after all—he had even been able to make out bits of what was said. Then he was told that the sermon had been in English.
I don't trace back to any Howards that I've found. Tudors. I get them all confused with Plantagenets, Stuarts, should know my English history better.
My anecdotal material is the most interesting even if they weren't royals. I visited Warwick Castle in the 70's, and now I find that I may be a direct descendant to of first earl, Thomas? Newburgh, origin Normandy, changed to Newberry in early Am.
My favorite one takes too long to tell.
If you have Strong in your lineage, it's a good bet you are a Mayflower Descendant. I never found any for me.
The genetic traits are fascinating if you can find a few clues, not much got recorded way back when.
Yes, there's no end to this stuff, and I got burned out on mine unless something new crops up and did a lot of research helping a distant cousin find missing lines in his enormous database. Two in particular he badly wanted. Well, we worked together and found them, but I did a lot of the grunt work. He loved old cars and trucks, so we tracked down a family who had a factory in the Bronx, found tons of stuff in the archives of the NYT about that. He was thrilled to meet the grandson who showed up at a reunion (I can't get to them out east). The other one was a family name killed in the Oklahoma City bombing. I stumbled over their most recent origins. They were very hard to research because they were a missionary family in oh boy, near the Congo, and rarely showed up on censuses, we used the ones they did, passport records and Wheaton church records. One was still there last I knew. The ones in the bombing shared his surname; mine was a variant, but when we got them back far enough, I was a little more closely related than he, 9th cousins.
I could find a lot more if I could travel. Isn't it exciting when you break through a brick wall? Some I doubt I ever will.
Yes, the common names are the very worst! That's where I got major stuck.
The first census with all the names may have been 1850, not sure any more. I carry a lot in my head when I work with it but quickly forget details when I haven’t for awhile. Seriously, I do have the overall outline in my head which is why I can even talk about some of it without my data.
Looks very fittingly like just another in a long line of All-red Rats.
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My half-brother, who makes Art Bell or David Icke look like chartered accountants, has been saying this for years.
39 = 3 X 13
From Biblical numerics, we quickly see:
3 Divine completeness and perfection
13 Apostasy; depravity and rebellion, raised, by the 3 above, to unholy levels of ‘perfection’ & completeness
39 Disease
Therefore, we can conclude (as we already know) that President Obama is a perfectly and completely depraved and rebellious Apostate, who is a disease upon our Land!
Countdown to the 2012 racing forms...what’s the word on Palin, Romney, West, Huck, etc?
If she keeps at it she’ll find that one of them is descended from a jackal.
So, we have a monarchy after all. Sigh... All those wars, and it comes down to this.
Okay FReepers I'm Disappointed!!
79 Posts and not ONE mention of ... KEVIN BACON. The 'original' Six degrees of Separation Man :-)
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