Posted on 03/09/2011 9:12:49 AM PST by kbennkc
Republican Party favorites Chris Christie and Sarah Palin are engaged in a feud of rock-star proportions.
The New Jersey governor and former Alaska governor are two of the best-known figures in the GOP, and both have been mentioned as possible 2012 presidential candidates.
But neither seems to like the other very much.
Their feud appears to date back to Christie’s 2009 gubernatorial campaign, when he declined to have Palin, a popular figure with the conservative Tea Party movement, campaign
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
“Why is she any more or less viable than Michele Bachmann or Herman Cain?”
Schedule appearances at the same time; book an arena for SP, a big room for Bachmannn and a phone booth for Cain.
Oh. And ask 100 people on the street if they know who they are. 4 will identify Bachmann, Cain’s mother will recognize him. 99 will know SP.
Oh. And is there anyone in America who knows more about how to push the oil out of Alaska, just when we are going to need it most?
Except when preaching to her own choir in an extremely safe environment, except for friendly interviews (Hannity and Barbara Walters pitching her softballs) or except for reading a prepared speech that somebody else most likely wrote for her, when does Sarah Palin ever go "off script"?
When was the first or last time that we have ever heard Sarah Palin discussing a breaking news event of national importance, right then and there, when she had to use her own fund of knowledge, in real time, and not be forced to rely on a week's worth of coaching to be able to pretend that she actually has any clue about what is going on in the world outside of Alaska?
In 2008, compared to the average regular poster on Free Republic, Sarah Palin was pathetically uninformed.
In 2008, what regular poster on Free Republic could not have discussed, at length, the problems with the Sunni militias, the al Sadr militias, the Kurdish situation, al Qaeda in Iraq and who was the latest "Number One in al Qaeda in Iraq" that died the week before in a Hellfire strike from a Predator?
If her life depended on it, could Sarah Palin explain the difference between a "blood libel", a "pogrom" and a "matzo ball" or was "blood libel" simply two words that she read off of a speech that somebody else wrote for her?
We will never know the answer to that because Sarah Palin never puts herself into a situation where she debates a confrontational interviewer that challenges her extremely limited fund of knowledge.
It is no wonder that Sarah Palin is NOT considered capable by being a good President by a jaw-dropping 72% of ALL voters:
FOX News Poll (February 7-9, 2011)
Question 3: I am going to read you a list of names. Tell me if you think that person would make a good President or not.
Sarah Palin:
.................YES.........NO.......DK.....Never heard of
ALL...........23%.......72%.........4%.......1%
Dem ...........7%........87%........5%.......1%
Rep ...........40%.......56%.......3%.......1%
Ind ...........25%........69%.......3%.......1%
This is serious stuff. With those numbers and with her abysmal fund of knowledge, if Sarah Palin is the Republican nominee, we will have a 2012 defeat of George McGovern proportions.
America cannot afford to have another four years of Barack Obama as President and nominating Sarah Palin guarantees just that. When SEVENTY TWO PERCENT of all voters do NOT think that Candidate X can be a good President, Candidate X has as much of a chance of being elected President as Paris Hilton does.
For far too long, anybody who has dared to say anything against the qualifications of Saint Sarah on Free Republic, has been labeled as suffering from "P.S.D." (Palin Derangement Syndrome).
Well, guess what, unquestioningly wallowing in a Cult of Personality, lets call it "P.O.W." (Palin Obsessive Worship) does not win Presidential elections.
Especially when SEVENTY TWO PERCENT of all voters do NOT share in the blind faith of the object of the worship.
“I don’t understand why you are not informed enough to understand Christie threw the first jab”
I said, “did I miss something” Sheesh! All you have to do is say, yes you missed something - Christie started it this way.
This is why I said I find it hard to believe that Sarah would be so petty.
What don’t you understand about that?
In somebody's dreams!
So does his buying into the cap and trade "global warming" "green engergy" crapola.
Or what Palin called "snake oil science."
Simple people talk about people.
Mediocre people talk about events.
Superior people talk about ideas.
What good is name recognition if most have a negative association with the name?
There a plenty of candidates that have come out of nowhere to win nominations and the Presidents. It comes down to running a superior campaign and getting one's message out.
Problem is that this public polling is based on a caricature, not the actual candidate. She was mishandled by idiots on the McCain campaign in 2008, and that led to some mistakes that started her current position.
She has been on countless interview shows and gotten difficult questions in the meantime. She is not just on Hannity with friendly interviews. Your description is straight off the Kos script so I am going to disregard your entire diatribe. Why do you think the left is obsessed 24/7 with Sarah Palin? It is because they are scared shitless of one of the most effective communicators we have seen in over two decades. They want to destroy her before she can even content, because she is one who is not tied to special interests and inside the losing inside the beltway ideas that the RNC and most GOP candidates wallow in in one losing race after another.
If you are accusing me of being a ‘Palin-or-no-one’ type, you are purely ignorant, or just a bomb-thrower. I am not behind her as a candidate at this time because of the negative position she starts in. To earn my vote she would have to demonstrate strongly in the debates and interviews, should she run. I completely reject that she cannot overcome that, however, because she has excelled in so many situations. You think if gas is north of $5 in 2012, the candidate best known for domestic drilling doesn’t have a chance of the guy who shut down drilling in a very public way for four years?
The criteria you use to establish candidate viability eliminates 99% of normal people, and 98.9% of non-traditional candidates. Palinistas, like me, fully-admit that she is not a policy wonk, not part of the punditry, not part of the establishment, not conversant on foreign policy, and not a master debater (joke). But, the lady knows right from wrong, up from down, and the sensibility of the average American. Her trump card? A spine. Take your flow chart born of PDS and stick it.
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She sends out opinion pieces via her Facebook page, or writes columns for the Wall Street Journal. She seems to be well informed, and has knowledge of many issues, contrary to popular opinion.
Why do you think that Sarah would not be able to do the same thing? If she wants to throw her hat into the ring, she has the perfect opportunity to make herself known to one and all, and everyone will have the chance to see her in comparison to all the others. We'll see whether or not she has what it takes to be President.
I don’t see a fued either. He has smacked her pretty hard 3 times that I know of. She has always remained classy and risen above it and compliment him on something whenever asked about him. That is until the comment she made about it taking more courage to cut government when you had a surplus than when you are bankrupt. Still I think she remained ‘adult’ about it and not attack him personally.
“I wasn’t aware that Christie had taken that many shots at Palin.”
The first one I remember hearing was something about him not having such a big ego,like some others, as to think he should run for Pres.
Another was the one about her needing to talk ‘off script’.
I can’t remember, right now, the third one I heard - but it was really snarky. I think it was something about how Alaska might be a lot larger than NJ, but had a lot less people.
Seems like at least once a weak he was swatting at her.
I always though feuds were long running hatreds. This was nothing. LOL
Yes, but typically they try to create ‘news’ and shape perception.
This is just a thought but isn’t New Jersey politics quite corrupt? In trying to figure out why so many GOP politicians don’t like Sarah Palin, it may be because their hands are a bit dirty as well, including Christie? The Good Old Boy network that exists in AK may be at play in other states as well. Palin is a threat to them and that is a proven fact.
This poster has repeatedly posted a common set of anti-Palin talking points to a breathtaking number of threads, see for example
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I bet I could find more, but you get the point.
Hey, troll-boy.
Except when preaching to her own choir in an extremely safe environment, except for friendly interviews (Hannity and Barbara Walters pitching her softballs) or except for reading a prepared speech that somebody else most likely wrote for her, when does Sarah Palin ever go "off script"?
Two words.
"Death Panels."
She didn't just go "off script" : she re-wrote it.
When was the first or last time that we have ever heard Sarah Palin discussing a breaking news event of national importance, right then and there, when she had to use her own fund of knowledge, in real time, and not be forced to rely on a week's worth of coaching to be able to pretend that she actually has any clue about what is going on in the world outside of Alaska?
Didn't you hear? The press starting ringing her phone off the hook within hours of the Rep. Giffords shooting; at the same time that the Pima County Sheriff was shooting off his mouth that she was complicit.
When she didn't take the bait, the complaint changed that she wasn't involved enough in national affairs, which proved her influence and chances at office were over: and of course, within nanoseconds of her first tasteful and Presidential message, the spin became that she had "made the story about herself."
Notice that she didn't pass out T-shirts at the "Memorial Rally."
People died, Obaama thrived.
"Palin couldn't explain why North Korea and South Korea were separate nations. ..... Asked to identify the enemy that her son would be fighting in Iraq, she drew a blank. Later, on the plane, Palin said to her team: 'I wish I'd paid more attention to this stuff'."
You're RE:posting a year-old article which relied extensively on Steve Schmidt, about events that happened THREE years ago.
If her life depended on it, could Sarah Palin explain the difference between a "blood libel", a "pogrom" and a "matzo ball" or was "blood libel" simply two words that she read off of a speech that somebody else wrote for her?
Neither one, it was a mark of genius. Notice that Prof. Dershowitz, of Harvard Law School, backed her on this.
It is no wonder that Sarah Palin is NOT considered capable by being a good President by a jaw-dropping 72% of ALL voters: FOX News Poll (February 7-9, 2011)
I eviscerated this poll the last time I wrote.
Your *own* link to the Fox News poll shows the internals. Democrats=389 respondents, Republicans=354 respondents, independent=147 respondents. So right there the numbers are skewed. Secondly, the landline/cell phone mix was decided according to the relative proportion of landline / cell phones in each state: but breakdown by state was not given. The political "activism" of those sampled is suspect, too: 37% had never even heard of Chris Christie? 45% had never heard of Tim Pawlenty? 42% never heard of Haley Barbour? This sounds like the Union Thug / American Idle crowd writ large.
America cannot afford to have another four years of Barack Obama as President and nominating Sarah Palin guarantees just that. When SEVENTY TWO PERCENT of all voters do NOT think that Candidate X can be a good President, Candidate X has as much of a chance of being elected President as Paris Hilton does.
Yeah, and as I posted earlier, the polls had JimmyDhimmi Carter up by 6% over Reagan in OCTOBER 1979 -- less than one month BEFORE an election.
Cheers!
“What good is name recognition if most have a negative association with the name?”
Where do you get the negative association? Has she lost a vote I don’y know about? Oh, annnnnnnnnnnnnd ... there’s no such thing as bad publicity? If everyone knows who you are, you can turn things around if it is less than positive, then everyone knows who you are in a positive light? Politics can do that.
Plenty of candidates? But you don’t name anyone with a snowball’s chance. None of them. Not with a name. And in Politics, the name is the game. Unless you steal it.
Christie’s actions and stances on he vile, evil un-American and hugely CORRUPT teacher’s union are admirable. However, he’s world class suckup and WIMP on 2nd Amendment issues and kisses Obammy’s butt on Obamacare. He’s is not even REMOTELY as intelligent or courageous as Sarah.
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