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Clovis Find Reveals Humans Hunted Gompotheres in North America
Past Horizons ^ | 1-25-2011

Posted on 01/26/2011 7:57:13 AM PST by Renfield

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To: darth

I would want something much faster acting than aconitine if I was going to put a spear into a giant cave bear even if it meant the meat would be poison. I want his cave and I don’t want him chasing me around after the spear incident.

Is there a fast poison incident to the midwest US? I don’t remember the native north americans using poisonous arrows like the central and south americans did.


21 posted on 01/28/2011 7:51:43 AM PST by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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Nicotine was used by some North American tribes as arrow poison. Don’t know of anything faster than aconitine outside of the tropics.


22 posted on 01/28/2011 11:30:38 AM PST by darth
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One gram of aconitine i.m. will stop a grizzly bear before he can run 100 yards.

One simply needs to insure being 101 yards away at the time.

23 posted on 01/29/2011 7:04:39 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: darth

FYI: http://www.vincelewis.net/monkshood.html

This page doesn’t make monkshood sound that effective as a hunting tool.


24 posted on 01/29/2011 7:21:34 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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Never did a web search on the plant.

My reference was a book on the Aleuts which provided a history of their using aconitine to kill whales before European contact. IIRC, the natives in Alaska sometimes used the poison on brown bears.

Most poisons are much faster and much lower doses are needed if introduced directly into the bloodstream.

I, of course, am not a direct source. I only know what I have read.

BTW, I have read over 10,000 books in my lifetime. Reading is a compulsion with me since childhood.


25 posted on 01/30/2011 4:50:06 AM PST by darth
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Impressive. Do you speed read or are you very old?


26 posted on 01/30/2011 6:17:07 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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Both.

When I was younger I read at least one book per day.


27 posted on 01/30/2011 6:31:03 AM PST by darth
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