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Obama planning a Dept of Truthiness?
The register (London UK) ^ | 10th May 2010 | Andrew Orlowski

Posted on 05/10/2010 1:37:13 PM PDT by opentalk

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To: opentalk

OK, Mr Obama. Name one Government insurance program or safety net that isn’t run like a Ponzi scheme and wouldn’t be a RICO candidate if it was run outside of Government.

And tell me, Mr. Obama, how is it that so many members of Congress become millionaires while in office and then get a 100% pension to boot when they leave.

And tell me, Mr. Obama, how can we trust our Government when you set the standards for closed meetings and broken promises.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm???


21 posted on 05/10/2010 2:13:59 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: opentalk

Scientia potentia est


22 posted on 05/10/2010 2:14:29 PM PDT by Notasoccermom
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To: opentalk

I got to see a superb example of government directed disinformation once. It was almost artistic in its own right, and was in response to “The Phoenix Lights”.

As background, the USAF does research and development on advanced aircraft in Nevada. However, about the only place where planes can go supersonic is way off the coast of San Diego. And getting between here and there is not easy, because the airspace is very crowded. The fastest and safest route is directly over Phoenix, where you will be under the watchful gaze of Sky Harbor airport.

Well, one of these advanced aircraft stripped its transmission, or the equivalent, in the late afternoon, right when it was entering the airspace over Phoenix. Apparently it could still hover, quietly, but otherwise was pretty much dead in the water, slowly drifting with the wind, a few hundred meters above a suburban area, right when people were coming home from work.

And this created a stir. So after the initial reports, that pretty accurately described what was seen, there was a very intense effort to confuse, distract, and otherwise convince everybody that what they saw with their own eyes wasn’t what they had seen.

The public figures, like an ex-governor, city councilmen, lots of police, etc., were told to shut up about it, in no uncertain terms. The local media was (easily) pressured into calling it a “hoax”, then alternatively making fun of it, condemning “UFO nuts”, and showing pictures and videos of other things, like the Phoenix skyline at night, dozens of miles away, etc., while talking about “Bigfoot” and the “Loch Ness Monster”.

But this shows the insidious nature of disinformation. That not only was a mechanism in place to create substantial amounts of disinformation, but someone or a bunch of people, in positions of power and authority, decided that it was *better* to lie to, and deceive the public, than to tell a simple truth.

That is, they could have just come out and said it was a classified aircraft, and that they were not at liberty to discuss it at all, and that they requested that the public not be overly concerned or pester them about it, because, after all, that is what the USAF is *supposed* to do. Make advanced aircraft, and keep them secret.

But they felt it was better to lie to, and threaten respectable people, and to suborn the media to lie to the public on their behalf.

If you think about it, philosophically, the long term effects of their doing this are far worse than whatever it is they were afraid of, and it reminds of how, during the Vietnam War, someone would remark that, “We had to destroy the village to save it.”

Disinformation should be used against America’s enemies, not the American public. Inherent in the use of disinformation is the belief that those you are lying to are stupid, and that you are better than they are.


23 posted on 05/10/2010 2:16:04 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Notasoccermom

“For also knowledge itself is power” — thanks had to look up, sums it up.


24 posted on 05/10/2010 2:16:25 PM PDT by opentalk
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Bump for later


25 posted on 05/10/2010 2:18:06 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: opentalk

On Glenn Beck today -— the FCC and Freepress organization want to classify the Internet as a public utility so they can control it. I think there are also plans to tax it.


26 posted on 05/10/2010 2:24:08 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: a fool in paradise

Not only did the liberal media refuse to report good news in Iraq...they refused to report on or televise the pressers held everyday in two war zones.

The pressers always were attended by many reporters, worldwide. They gave info on good and bad events, the reporters asked every question imaginable.

The answers put things in context and had much info.

But NO! The public was never allowed to see them on the “news”.


27 posted on 05/10/2010 2:30:09 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: roses of sharon
George soros and Media matters are big on trying to manipulate and control the message.
28 posted on 05/10/2010 2:33:05 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: VA_Gentleman

Veracity Czar; will ascertain truthfulness ratios in accordance to yet to be determined standards and enforce compliance per administrative regulations.


29 posted on 05/10/2010 2:38:30 PM PDT by dogcaller
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To: VA_Gentleman
"...The Ministry of Truth was the first thing I thought of too. It’s sad how prescient Orwell was..."

Just this morning, I posted my old "user-name" (Ministry of Truth) at a small-town forum that defends Socialism and Obama. That forum administrator has just started putting his boot on my throat.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2509740/posts?page=17#17

30 posted on 05/10/2010 2:39:21 PM PDT by Does so (ObamaCare...I pay for medical-marijuana claims by millions of Americans? 'Guess I do now.)
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To: opentalk

“Sunstein, on leave from Harvard’s Law School”.....

for mental health reasons, no doubt.


31 posted on 05/10/2010 3:08:43 PM PDT by deputytess (Men of the West .....stand and FIGHT!)
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To: a fool in paradise; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; ...
See tagline.


32 posted on 05/10/2010 3:28:11 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Just another day in Oceania.)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

“What did he mean? He specifically mentioned people who think that government is ‘inherently bad’”

I guess that includes Thomas Paine, who thought of government as inherently evil (yet necessary). Come to think of it, Tom was prone to extremism, and wasn’t the stablest of thinkers. However good he was for the American cause, he didn’t do Frenchmen any favors. Nor would he do much for any country that happened to adopt his total program as outlined in books not titled “Common Sense” or “The Crisis.”

Still, I wouldn’t want Obama shutting him up.


33 posted on 05/10/2010 3:49:46 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: OrioleFan

Jesus said that Satan is the father of all lies, but I am curious about what he would say about the Deceiver In Chief.


34 posted on 05/10/2010 3:51:52 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: OrioleFan

Jesus said that Satan is the father of all lies, but I am curious about what he would say about the Deceiver In Chief.


35 posted on 05/10/2010 4:03:23 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: opentalk
"Sunstein's writing swings wildly between technology utopianism, such as lauding the Hive Mind in his 2005 Infotopia: How Many Minds Produce Knowledge, and dystopianism. His 2000 book Republic.com (PDF via Google) warned of a world where wider choice of information meant people only read material that only confirmed their own prejudices."

You are only allowed the choices we approve for you.

"Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime is death."
- George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 2

"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'"
- George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 3

Need I go on?

36 posted on 05/10/2010 5:24:02 PM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: ConservativeMind
Didn’t 35+% of all Democrats believe Bush and Cheney blew up the WTC?

Hillary herself declared "Bush KNEW" in February 2002 from the floor of the Senate.

37 posted on 05/11/2010 5:58:05 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
Sunstein's writing swings wildly between technology utopianism, such as lauding the Hive Mind in his 2005 Infotopia: How Many Minds Produce Knowledge, and dystopianism. His 2000 book Republic.com (PDF via Google) warned of a world where wider choice of information meant people only read material that only confirmed their own prejudices.

Bunch of liberal BS! The Obama Regime doesn't want us "bitter clingers" trying to educate ourselves.

They want us to let "The Obama" do all of our thinking for us!

38 posted on 05/11/2010 6:04:51 AM PDT by airborne ("It's a great day for hockey!" - 'Badger' Bob Johnson (RIP))
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To: opentalk
Obama publicly scolded the supreme court ruling in Citizens United, which was about free speech. His supreme court pick doesn't like the 1st amendment and advocates when to censor free speech, FCC wants to control the Internet.
39 posted on 05/12/2010 12:01:53 PM PDT by opentalk
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