Posted on 02/20/2010 3:48:46 PM PST by TaraP
OOOPS DIDN’T PREVIEW. TRYING AGAIN:
Try some of these interesting links:
Secret Societies Research Project Introduction There are many secret societies in the world today. Many have secrets that have been kept for hundred of years, each member making oath to keep these secrets, a secret. Our mission is to investgate numerous societies are gain the following information (goals); Goals . . .
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread131163/pg1
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NOT SURE if this is what we’re looking for or not—i don’t think so—yet interesting maybe: The CAESAR, POLO, and ESAU Papers Cold War Era Hard Target Analysis of Soviet and Chinese Policy and Decision Making, 1953-1973
http://www.foia.cia.gov/cpe.asp
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25-Year Program Archive Search The automatic declassification provisions of Executive Order 12958, as amended, require the declassification of nonexempt historically-valuable records 25 years old or older. The EO was originally issued in April 1995 and amended in 2003, when it established 31 December 2006 as the first major deadline for automatic declassification under the “25-year program.” By 31 December 2006 all agencies were to have completed the review of all hardcopy documents determined to be historically valuable (designated as “permanent” by the agency and the National Archives) and exclusively containing their equities. As the deadline pertains to CIA, it covers the span of relevant documents originally dating from the establishment of the CIA after WWII through 1981.
http://www.foia.cia.gov/search_archive.asp
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This is a bit more interesting: Was the CIA behind Tibet violence?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080315120315AAt5rHm
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Of possible interest: OSS in China: Prelude to Cold War Professor Maochun Yu (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/OSS-China-Prelude-Cold-War/dp/0300066988
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Commenting on this in his 1932 document “Peasant War in China ... KMT regime in the aftermath of World War II opened the way for the victory of Mao ... General Suharto, backed by the CIA ...
http://www.icl-fi.org/english/wv/archives/oldsite/2000/China-743.htm
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I think ALEX JONES’ THE END GAME is an important film to watch . . . has info on the topic:
http://www.endgamethemovie.com/biblio01.html
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Looks like a great analysis of the sweep of Chinese history . . . particularly about transitions . . .
http://www.republicanchina.org/homepage.html
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CHINA’S PLAN OF ATTACK . . . ON THE USA:
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/US_%20China_%20New%20World%20Order.htm
SUB LINKS AT THE ABOVE SITE: THE RED CHINESE SECRET POLICE IN THE UNITED STATES “WAL-MART and the RED CHINESE SECRET POLICE, Part One” by Sherman H. Skolnick 08/27/01
RED CHINA and THE AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS Part One by Sherman H. Skolnick 1/15/01
RED CHINA and THE AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS Part Two by Sherman H. Skolnick 1/16/01
China vs New World Order The Final War and the Dark Millennium by Richard Moore DOJ Confirms Thomas’
Revelations Of China’s Attack On US Via Canada From Carol Adler
China Prepares to Execute Christians National Security Archive Update, February 27, 2002
*The Beijing-Washington Back-Channel and Henry Kissinger’s Secret Trip to China*
Sizing Up the Competition — Is China The Endgame? SEEDS OF FIRE: China and the Story behind the Attack on America by Gordon Thomas
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The rise of Asia, i.e. China and India, are going to make us even more co-dependent. ... The Cloak and Dagger Cook: A CIA Memoir by Kay Shaw Nelson is an absolutely delightful ...
http://bookviewsbyalancaruba.blogspot.com/
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The following I’m extremely skeptical of because I know folks who have met him . . . the doc claims that Billy Graham is a MPD and that one of his personalities is an illuminati satanist. I suppose stranger things have happened. I pray it’s not true. However, I don’t doubt that the evil doers would engineer such if they could.
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula5Bchap.shtml
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Search also on this website . . . not for the CIA doc but for Dimitru Duduman’s dreams and visions re China, Russia and WWIII. The site is ran by his grandson. He’s graduated from this life after a pretty dramatic life after God apprehended him—a KGB alcoholic . . .
http://www.handofhelp.com/index.php
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Guess that’s about all I was able to find via dogpile and ATS. Sorry . . . some interesting stuff, though.
No.
Folks who DON’T REALIZE THAT with all the indicators on billboards and handwriting on multiple walls all over the world . . .
are willfully and stubbornly GROSSLY ignorant.
It would be humorous to see you try and refute any of the smattering of selected quotes below.
You sound like you disagree with the FREEPER NAVY CDR who retired a few years ago. I asked him privately what percentage of the officer Corps in the Navy he thought were globalists and sold out to globalism. He said 30% or more. No one’s ever suggested less of a percentage to me.
You sound like you either are ignorant of the quotes of our leaders from 1900 ref’d in my tagline or simply do not believe the likes of
H.G. WELLS,
GORBACHEV,
RICHARD NIXON,
SCHLESENGER JR. (sp?)
ROCKEFELLER (PRAISING MAO’S CHINA LAVISHLY, BTW),
BUSH SR,
KISSINGER,
BREZENSKI,
ANDREW CARNEGIE,
AND A LONG LIST OF OTHERS
e.g.
1927
The Christian Science Monitor (August 8) quoted from an address to the World Federation of Education Associations (WFEA) by Dr. Augustus Thomas (commissioner of education for Maine) at their Toronto congress: “If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment.” He says the world must go through a long process of education
1931
Historian Arnold Toynbee delivers a speech to the Institute for the Study of International Affairs at Copenhagen in which he explains:
“We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands,
because to impugn the sovereignty of the local nation states of the world is still a heresy for which a statesman or publicist can perhaps not quite be burned at the stake but certainly be ostracized or discredited.” —International Affairs (journal of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, i.e. the British version of the Council on Foreign Relations) Nov 1931, “The Trend of International Affairs Wince the War”
1940
A book entitled, The New World Order by H.G. Wells, in which Wells claims:
“It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go....We are living in the end of the sovereign states....In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish....Countless people...will hate the new world order....and will die protesting against it.”
1948 - UNESCO: Its Purpose and Its Philosophy by Fabian Socialist Sir Julian Huxley is published
in which he proclaims that UNESCO “...In its education program it can stress the ultimate need for world political unity and familiarize all peoples with the implications of the transfer of full sovereignty from separate nations to a world organization...”
1949
Towards World Understanding, vol. V, is published by UNESCO, and in this volume one reads:
“As long as the child breathes the poisoned air of nationalism, education in world-mindedness can produce only rather precarious results....
For the moment, it is sufficient to note that it is most frequently in the family that the children are infected with nationalism by hearing what is national extolled and what is foreign disparaged....The activity of the school cannot bring about the desired result unless, repudiating every form of nationalism...”
1958
In Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.’s The Coming of the New Deal he quotes Machiavelli at the front of the book saying, “There is nothing...more dangerous to handle, than to initiate a new order of things.” And at the end of the book, he quotes Fabian Socialist H.G. Wells describing FDR as: “The most effective transmitting instrument possible for the coming of the new world order....He is continuously revolutionary in the new way without ever provoking a stark revolutionary crisis.”
1959 - The West in Crisis by James Warburg is published, in which he proclaims that: “...a world order without world law is an anachronism....A world which fails to establish the rule of law over the nation-states cannot long continue to exist. We are living in a perilous period of transition from the era of the fully sovereign nation-state to the era of world government.” James Warburg is a CFR member and founder of United World Federalists. He is also the son of Paul Warburg, an architect of the Federal Reserve.
1962 - March 10 State Department Study Memorandum No. 7, “A World Effectively Controlled by the United Nations, “ written by CFR member Lincoln Bloomfield, in which he states: “A world effectively controlled by the United Nations is one in which “world government” would come about through the establishment of supranational institutions, characterized by mandatory universal membership and some ability to employ physical force....(But) if the communist dynamic was greatly abated, the West might lose whatever incentive it has for world government” [EDITOR, I THINK] It looks as if now the “communist menace” has been replaced by the “terrorist menace”. And of course they can switch back to the communist menace or any other kind of menace whenever they want to.
1962 - A lecture given by CFR member Nelson Rockefeller at Harvard University in which he says that there is”...a new and free order struggling to be born....(There is a )fever of nationalism....(but) the nation-state is becoming less and less competent to perform its international political tasks....These are some of the reasons pressing us to lead vigorously toward the true building of a new world order....(with)voluntary service...Sooner perhaps than we may realize,....there will evolve the bases for a federal structure of the free world.”
1968 - The Subtle and Leisurely Penetration, a reference report from the George Mason School of Correspondence, is published by Education Information, Inc., of Sacramento, CA. It mentions that the thirty-two Americans to be Rhodes Scholars this year have been selected, and then states: “The stated objectives of Cecil John Rhodes and his friend, Sir Andrew Carnegie, included the reduction of the United States to a colony of the New World Order.”
1970 - Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era by Zbigniew Brzezinski is published. He is a CFR member who will become the first director of the Trilateral Commission and President Carter’s national security advisor. In this book he states: “Marxism represents a further vital and creative stage in the maturing of man’s universal vision. Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief.....Human beings become increasingly manipulable and malleable...
Today we are again witnessing the emergence of transnational elites....whose ties cut across national boundaries....The nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty....Further progress will require greater American sacrifices. More intensive efforts to shape a new world monetary structure will have to be undertaken.”
1973 - August 10: The New York Times publishes “From a China Traveller” by David Rockefeller, who writes about Communist China: “One is impressed immediately by the sense of national harmony....There is a very real and pervasive dedication to chairman Mao and Maoist principles. Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community purpose. General social and economic progress is no less impressive....The enormous social advances of China have benefited greatly from the singleness of ideology and purpose....The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in history.”
1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev quoted in Washington Post Feb 25 1990 “...A new world order is taking shape so fast that governments are well as private citizens find it difficult just to absorb the gallop of events.....”
President Bush (SR) quotes on new world order and United nations:
“Time and again in this century, the political map of the world was transformed. And in each instance, a new world order came about through the advent of a new tyrant or the outbreak of a bloody global war, or its end.” Feb 28, 1990-—this quote is six months before Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in August.
“Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective—a new world order—can emerge...... We are now in sight of a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders.” —Sep 11 1990
1992 - July 20 Time magazine published “The Birth of the Global Nation” by Strobe Talbott (Rhodes scholar roommate of Bill Clinton at Oxford University, CFR director, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace board of directors member, and Trilateralist from a wealthy Ohio investment banking family), in which he writes: All countries are basically social arrangements....No matter how permanent or even sacred they may seem at any one time, in fact they are all artificial and temporary....Perhaps national sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all....But it has taken the events in our own wondrous and terrible century to clinch the case for world government.”
1992 - August 26: The New York Times publishes “The World Needs an Army on Call” by U.S. Senator David Boren (Rhodes Scholar 1963, CFR member, and member of “Skull and Bones”) in which he states: “In the aftermath of World War II, President Truman wanted to empower the United Nations to create a new world order....Richard Gardner proposes that forty to fifty member nations contribute to a rapid-deployment force of one hundred thousand volunteers that could train under common leadership....It is time for us to create such a force....The existence of such a force would go a long way toward making the “new world order” more than just a slogan.”
1994 - the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor March 1995 quotes Vladimir Zhirinovsky on Nov 9 at a press conference at the U.N. said, “There has long been a hidden agenda to merge America and Russia under the New World Order.”
1995 - July/August: In the CFR’s Foreign Affairs, prominent CFR member Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. exclaims: “We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money.”
1996 - May 11 Journalist Joan Veon interviews David C. Korten, author of When Corporations Rule the World (1995) and former Ford Foundation project specialist in Manila. In this interview, Korten claims that: “the World Trade Organization is creating a world government in which one organization which is totally unelected, wholly secretive....with the power to virtually override any local or national laws if those in any way inconvenience global corporations....It was a terrible shock (to those of us who supported Bill Clinton) when Clinton came in and GATT and NAFTA became the centerpieces of his policy....And in a sense, there was almost a seamless transition from President Bush to President Clinton in that regard....Our democracy has been rendered meaningless by big money. The truth is there are politicians (who) are owned lock, stock and barrel by the big money interests....Our elections create, to some extent, a facade of choice.”
1996 - October 23: On “The Charlie Rose Show” on the Public Broadcasting System, Mikhail Gorbachev states: “We are part of the Cosmos. Cosmos is my God. Nature is my God....The future society will be a totally new civilization which will synthesize the experience of Socialism and Capitalism....”
Alcoa thanks you.
With EVERY subject, one can (A) say the subject isn't serious enough for discussion or (B) because they know nothing about the subject, say it's tin-foil hat material or (C) do a little research to either debunk or learn more about the subject.
Being a Christian who believes that the Bible foretells of such things occuring, makes it easy for me
Well this is not the religion forum but frankly this is what happens when folks make themselves sole arbiters of Truth. Wild ass interpretations leading them off into bizarre cultish apocalyptic beliefs. Such has occurred ever since the Protestant Reformation. Whole sects, such as Seventh Day Adventists and Mormons sprung from these kind of tinfoil propositions.
I said, “This is what *I* believe”.
You make out like only what you believe in is gospel.
BTW: what is it you believe?
There is only one Truth.
I already told you what I believe. The article is an example of:
“Wild ass interpretations leading them off into bizarre cultish apocalyptic beliefs. Such has occurred ever since the Protestant Reformation. Whole sects, such as Seventh Day Adventists and Mormons sprung from these kind of tinfoil propositions.”
The pride of “I” is the cause.
May God be with you and may you be humbled in his presence.
In Jesus Christ name, Amen. TRUTH
Well...I’m not sold on this guy...he’s off base in tooo many places...and his facts are purely speckulation and that not very good ones. I would not use him as a source as he does go off the deep end pretty far.
Saying the first two wars were “a part of the plan” should be a heads up to the reader and red light. History easily disproves him.
Back at ya.
Ah, you lost me with Gorbachev. He mentions God. When the hell did commies start believing in God? Maybe Gorby started believeing in God after he was almost shot and thrown down a well in August of 1991. And watch you you’re calling ignorant, ok? Welles was above all a science FICTION writer. Fiction. Important word. And he was a socialist. Another important word. World order? End of ‘’sovereign states’’? Maybe for the Europeans. Not for my country. It’s often been my rule of thumb that someone as, passionate shall we say as you, who use’s alot of other people works and arguments in explaining theirs hasn’t really thought out a good argument of their own.
Fascinating . . .
That’s a bit like . . . reading a Merium Webster dictionary and insisting it’s tinfoil hat to think it’s about English words.
Incredible.
I’d guess that you’ll be well deserving of whatever surprises befall you and yours.
It’s persistently been very fascinating psychodynamically as well as sociologically.
All the more so since OThuga was placed in the WhiteHouse as Destroyer In Chief.
A LOT of FREEPERS woke up with that.
It’s amazing how many have remained sleepwalking and clueless.
INDEED.
Alcoa can’t wait
Wrong.
Digging deeply enough discloses he’s right about WWI and WWII. I’m still a little skeptical about the civil war but not totally.
Some researchers insist the globalists have been working toward the goal for 400 years.
There’s a LOT of evidence to indicate that’s quite true.
I wonder if you even read—at least with comprehension—all of Gorbachev’s quote.
He’s calling THE COSMOS, NATURE his god.
In terms of me . . . it would appear that you’ve not read much of anything I’ve written . . . certainly not with discernment and comprehension.
However, I can easily handle leaving you mostly to your fantasies.
Wow ... had me going up until it was talking about white people inheriting the Earth. WTF has this guy been smoking?
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