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To: SunkenCiv

Don’t blame Whitey Ping.

‘One ancestral lineage — which is genetically similar to Middle Eastern, Central Asian and European populations — was higher in upper-caste individuals and speakers of Indo-European languages such as Hindi, the researchers found. The other lineage was not close to any group outside the subcontinent, and was most common in people indigenous to the Andaman Islands, a remote archipelago in the Bay of Bengal.’

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‘This genetic evidence refutes the claim that the Indian caste structure was a modern invention of British colonialism, the authors say. “This idea that caste is thousands of years old is a big deal,”’

No kidding.


2 posted on 09/23/2009 5:46:34 PM PDT by BGHater ("real price of every thing ... is the toil and trouble of acquiring it")
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To: BGHater
This genetic evidence refutes the claim that the Indian caste structure was a modern invention of British colonialism,

I had no idea that anyone blamed the Indian Caste system on the British. But I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

Every culture I have ever read about has always had some kind of class structure with taboos about crossing the line (at least once the culture rose above the tribal level).

Why would India be different?

5 posted on 09/23/2009 6:07:02 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: BGHater
This really surprises me. Did the Indians have any recorded history before the Brits invaded?

Are their memories really that short? Maybe their recorded history ignored the caste system because it was so ubiquitous that it was invisible to those writing their history. It was always there everywhere so why talk about it?

I suppose the British are still hated in India and make a convenient scapegoat to blame their nasty caste system on when they talk to the Liberal Westerners. And of course the Brits a good Liberal reformed Colonial Masters must be self castigating and take the blame willingly.

12 posted on 09/23/2009 6:20:08 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: BGHater
The Caste structure is laid out in the Bhagavad Gita and other even more ancient documents.

I really can't imagine who would think it was invented by the Brits.

This kind of dovetails with a discovery reported recently about various European and Middle-Eastern Haplogroups. It seems the MOST COMMON haplogroup in Europe is also the most common one in the Middle East EXCEPT, and this is a really big, huge EXCEPT, that haplogroup does not appear among the Sa'ami (Laplanders) in the far North in Europe, nor among Saudi Arabians living on the Arabian peninsula.

Think about it ~ the most common lineage of people in Europe and the Middle East simply disappears in the far North or in the Arabian desert.

Is it because that common type of human simply cannot reproduce itself outside it's narrow "range", or is there a disease, or does Sunlight control their reproductive capacity?

Now we come to India and there are only two main strains, and everybody is part of both, but in different proportions, but what about the other strains who've gone through there? What about the others who were known to have ruled vast areas in India ~ what happened to their genetic imprint?

Again, it's the same sort of pattern you get with Europe and the Middle East which are generally to the North.

Recently there was a report that Middle Easterners living in Sweden had VERY LOW birthrates. Are they trying to survive North of some level of sunlight that they have to have to reproduce?

There are definitely some strange things here that will, eventually, be explained by someone.

14 posted on 09/23/2009 6:50:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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