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Chode ^ | 8/5/2009 | Chode

Posted on 08/05/2009 7:57:45 PM PDT by Chode

This will be a general purpose thread for F1 news and pings that really don't require a thread of their own.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: f1; f1gp; formula1; formulaone; grandprix
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To: mabarker1; ColdOne
funny how the time fly's... some days i remember thirty years ago better than this morning
1,741 posted on 12/30/2014 3:05:14 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

Boy that is the truth. I cannot remember things someone just tells me BUT can remember things in the way-back machine brain.


1,742 posted on 12/31/2014 8:17:18 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Chode; al_c; arbitrary.squid; arderkrag; atc23; Bad~Rodeo; Betis70; biff; bobby.223; bobt7818; ...

New Super License points system from 2016

Formula One racing’s governing body, the FIA, has revealed details of a new Super Licence points system, making it harder for drivers to become eligible for F1 competition.

From 2016, drivers must have accumulated 40 points over a three-year period, with points allocation based on which other motorsport series they have participated in and the level of results they achieved.

Drivers will have also have to be at least 18-years old, have spent at least two years in junior single-seater categories, hold a valid road driver’s licence and pass a test on the Formula One sporting regulations. The existing requirement of completing 300 kilometres in a recent F1 car also remains.

The junior categories eligible for points, in order of weighting, are: a future FIA F2 championship (60 points for winner), GP2 (50), FIA F3 European championship (40), FIA WEC (LMP1 only) (40), IndyCar (40), GP3 (30), Formula Renault 3.5 (30), Japanese Super Formula (20), national FIA-certified F4 championships (10), national F3 championships (10) and Formula Renault (EuroCup, ALPS or NEC) (5).

If such a system had been in place ahead of 2015, new Toro Rosso signing Max Verstappen would be ineligible to race in F1 this year, having accrued just 20 points by finishing third in the 2014 FIA F3 European championship - the 17-year-old’s only season of car racing to date.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2015/1/16755.html


1,743 posted on 01/06/2015 5:23:18 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode; All

considering the grid is down to 9 teams and could soon drop to 8 as Lotus is having trouble paying bills, it won’t be to tough to find drivers to meet the requirements...


1,744 posted on 01/06/2015 5:39:31 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: God luvs America
i heard that
1,745 posted on 01/06/2015 6:31:11 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

He traded up for the sports model, then he ordered a car.

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/08/laferrari-owner-cornelia-hagmann-husband-died-video/


1,746 posted on 01/08/2015 6:36:55 PM PST by nascarnation (....)
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To: nascarnation
and a redhead to boot... hope she doesn't kill herself in it
1,747 posted on 01/08/2015 7:27:16 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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F1 1978 Monza Ligier Matra V12 Jacques Laffite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h2LOzRrQ4M

Single seater driven around Nurburgring Nordschleife in the snow!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2g6sTSbxBU


1,748 posted on 01/12/2015 3:45:08 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

I got to hear the Matra in person at the 1978 Belgian GP. It was pretty amazing, but I was stunned just to be there...


1,749 posted on 01/13/2015 10:32:57 PM PST by clintonh8r (Death to islam.)
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To: clintonh8r
it definitely had a song all it's own and was the worst assault on my ears up to that point in time from a racing engine...
1,750 posted on 01/14/2015 4:40:23 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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Honda wins Formula 1 engine battle with FIA

McLaren's new engine partner Honda has won its fight to be allowed to develop its engine during 2015.

Formula 1's governing body the FIA has backtracked on an earlier ruling that allowed Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari to upgrade their engines but not Honda.

The move comes after Honda expressed its unhappiness about what it considered to be an unfair situation.

Honda will now be allowed to develop its brand new engine within limits explicitly laid out by the FIA.

What can Honda do?

Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari are allowed to change up to 48% of the engines they used in 2014 by the end of the 2015 season.

This is defined by a number of 'tokens', which are assigned to parts of the engine on the basis of their influence on performance.

Out of a total of 66 tokens, Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari can modify 32 through 2015.

Previously Honda had been barred from changing any of its engine after it was approved for competition on 28 February.

Friday's ruling will allow Honda to change a given amount of its engine calculated by the average of the number of tokens unused by the other manufacturers by the time of the first race in Australia on 16 March.

In the example given by FIA race director Charlie Whiting, and seen by BBC Sport, he writes: "If the three 2014 manufacturers have eight, seven and five unused tokens respectively at the start of the season, then the new manufacturer will be allowed to use six during the season (the average rounded down to the nearest whole number)".

Why has this been done?

Honda, which is the first new engine manufacturer to enter F1 for well over a decade, had been concerned that it was not being treated fairly.

Its senior management flew over from Japan to meet the FIA on Monday to express its concerns at the situation.

This followed the decision by the FIA to allow Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari to use their 32 development tokens over the course of the 2015 season, rather than by the originally intended approval date of 28 February.

That came after Ferrari, who had the worst engine in 2014, pointed out to the FIA that the rules did not clearly define when the modified engines for 2015 should be submitted for approval.

Whiting admitted in his note to the teams on Friday evening that that ruling left "unaddressed uncertainty" within the rules on the permitted engine development.

What appeared unfair to Honda:

Its rivals could develop their engines in 2015 following the FIA's initial U-turn but it could not

It was being forced to supply only four engines to its drivers in 2015, the same as the other manufacturers, even though its rivals were allowed to supply five in their first season with their new engines in 2014

In 2016, it was being allowed to use only 25 units of development, the same restrictions on it as the other manufacturers, meaning it missed out on the 32 its rivals could use in 2015.

The FIA's decision also takes into account the opinions of Honda's rivals that it had an advantage inherent in entering a year late in that it knew a target to aim for, because it was aware of the performance of the rival engines in 2014.

By contrast, Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari were shooting in the dark before 2014, when the new turbo hybrid engine formula, with accompanying fuel restriction, was introduced.

What number of tokens will Honda have available?

None of the three existing manufacturers are expected to start the season with an engine that uses all 32 development tokens.

Mercedes are in the best position, but both Renault and to an even greater extent Ferrari will leave substantial leeway to make major changes to their engine architecture during the season as they are both behind where they wanted to be in terms of development.

It is unclear exactly how much Honda will be able to develop its engine, but the latest FIA ruling and the positions of its rivals mean it is likely to have a significant amount of development available.

1,751 posted on 01/18/2015 10:47:41 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode
The tinkering of rules minutiae years ago for every little thing soured me from following F1. These new anal retentive games just renew things.

There was a time when engine rules and chassis rules yeilded great cars and competition. Tinkering to please political winds ruined things.

Getting rid of electoninc aids that permited mediocre drivers to compete above their level was one of the few things the fools the run F1 did right

IMHO, of course. I grew up reading of Gurney, Clark, Stewart, Hill, Surtees, and all those old geezers that had to do it manually.

Rant off.

1,752 posted on 01/18/2015 10:56:42 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Chode

So at the end of the Season can the “unused tokens” be used on any Train or Subway System Worldwide?

I mean, after all they shouldn’t be wasted...

On a serious note I’m thinking that FIA is Skeert of Honda because the last time they were in F1 they kicked the living $&!t out of everybody IIRC.


1,753 posted on 01/19/2015 3:49:20 AM PST by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: doorgunner69
100%
1,754 posted on 01/19/2015 7:34:38 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: mabarker1
strange thing that, as an engine supplier yes, but as a team they only scored three wins... go figure
1,755 posted on 01/19/2015 7:44:42 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode
Honda...Formula 1 engine

Yeah, Honda has juuuuust a little experience...(with screaming high-rev engines that don't blow up)

1,756 posted on 01/19/2015 4:38:35 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Chode
ya think they'd run Audi or Porsche engines?

Good one!

Back in the day, the Beetle engine was Porsche, the Rabbit engine was Audi.

1,757 posted on 01/19/2015 4:42:05 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
a little...
1,758 posted on 01/19/2015 4:50:59 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
cause Audi had more experience with diesel???
1,759 posted on 01/19/2015 4:52:11 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

Well, I understand that the Rabbit/Golf engine was so strong because its main and rod bearing struture was so overbuilt (due to the gas engine being based on a diesel block)


1,760 posted on 01/19/2015 4:58:19 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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