[GourmetDan]

"[ECO] Indeed, every astronomy book is, as you say, careful to point out that 'the earth goes around the sun' can never be proven."

"[allmendream] it is still called the Heliocentric Theory, not the Heliocentric Truth"

Hypocrisy is one of allmendream's best qualities.

Without it, he wouldn't have anything to say...

[allmendream]

That you think such a stance is hypocritical shows that you have no real understanding of science.

And once again in all your blather you cannot name a force sufficient to accomplish the motion described by the coordinate system you prefer.

Meanwhile the Heliocentric model is ‘equally valid as a coordinate system’ while being superior in that it is easily explainable by the known and measurable force of gravity.

[muawiyah]

When I was in college decades back we had these Saudi Arabian students who'd grown up out near the Rub'al'Khalid chasing sheep and goats around.

Real basic sort of lifestyle.

The King set up a fund to send them to a prepschool, and then on to Indiana University.

Occasionally they'd get into tiffs about what a word in the English language actually meant in a given context, and next thing you know they'd have their footlong daggers out taking pokes at each other.

At the time I thought that was such a barbaric thing to do. Over the years I've softened my judgment ~ how refreshing, direct and honest of them!

Time for you guys to get civilized regarding the meanings commonly accepted for words ~ first rule, if it's not a commonly accepted meaning and you aren't a made member of the nomenklatura (such as I am), give it up!

You can "give it up" for the sake of comity, or you can "give it up" for Jesus, or maybe even "give it up" for Buddha's sake ~ I don't particularly care, but eternal debates over definitions without the use of knives is so ignorant and primitive ~ tiresome even.