[aristotleman]

Harmonic language/counterpoint/thematic development/
-perfection of a style, yes. Radical at the same time, within the framework of the classical style. Beethoven was an early Romantic, radical in a different, new sense.

Contemporary music works just the same. I have an ear for it, and let me tell you it sounds no different to me than any other music. I just don’t understand people......

[jammer]

I think your first paragraph restates what I said.

I'm glad you have an ear for contemporary music. A lot of folks I respect greatly do, also. A lot of folks I respect greatly do not. I guess, no matter how hard I've tried for 40 years, I'm missing a lot, which I regret.