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New forum look (Vanity)
none ^ | 3/10/08 | Hazcat

Posted on 03/10/2008 5:20:28 AM PDT by Hazcat

I can't find any thing with this new format! Where the heck did the banglist go? The list of 'popular keywords' is a joke.

This format is horrendous!


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Free Republic Policy/Q&A; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; forum

1 posted on 03/10/2008 5:20:29 AM PDT by Hazcat
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To: Hazcat

As the saying goes:

“If it’s not broken, don’t fix it.”


2 posted on 03/10/2008 5:31:59 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Hazcat
I agree, how does somebody know if someone has replied to their post?
It appears as if you have to wade through every reply to every post.
3 posted on 03/10/2008 5:36:18 AM PDT by Brainhose (What's It Going To Do.... Nibble Your Bum!?)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

YEP!

Why is it now set that when you click on the ‘jump in’ on the first page it takes you to ‘news/activism’? It should start on ‘everything’.

If this place doesn’t become ‘user friendly’ instead of ‘geek friendly’ I am out of here.


4 posted on 03/10/2008 5:37:19 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Brainhose

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1983172/replies?c=3


5 posted on 03/10/2008 5:38:10 AM PDT by listenhillary (Michelle Obama - America is Just Downright Mean)
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To: Hazcat

New format sucks.


6 posted on 03/10/2008 5:38:15 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: Hazcat

Well, one positive is my productivity will go up.

Spent no time here this weekend and already got too frustrated this morning to deal with it. i expect my FReeping will go down to once or twice a day.


7 posted on 03/10/2008 5:42:05 AM PDT by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: Hazcat

Gee, once they settled on their final design it took me all of 5 minutes to figure it out. It isn’t all that bad


8 posted on 03/10/2008 5:43:47 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Hazcat
"Where the heck did the banglist go?"

The banglist is still available at the link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=banglist

If you're referring to the fact that the old search facility is missing, which enabled searched by "keyword" and "poster", yeah, that's a bummer. I used them a lot, and I don't see any replacement anywhere, so that's a major decrease in functionality for me.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

9 posted on 03/10/2008 5:48:22 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Hazcat

Thread number 1007 regarding the new look...how original.

I like it.

JohnRob is laying groundwork for a much better organized forum, with more tools.

If you can’t see that, and you hate it so much, go ahead and go back to DU or Politico.

I, for one, look forward to the progress being made.


10 posted on 03/10/2008 6:08:42 AM PDT by papasmurf (I'm not worried anymore. I read Obama's "Blueprint for Change".)
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To: papasmurf

11 posted on 03/10/2008 6:10:41 AM PDT by ShadowDancer ( Losers always look for excuses. Winners never quit.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Oh, GOD! Are you telling me this IS the final format?

Used to be you jumped in at ‘everything’ then you could EASILY find the banglist or state forums or anything else from the keywords and forum list.

If you wanted to post you just did and then picked the catagory and such. Now you need to figure out what froum you would like it in first.

Now if you have 20 minutes you might find an older thread if you did a ping to it or can maybe figure out which ‘news’ forum it is in.

This is a terrible format.


12 posted on 03/10/2008 6:12:28 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Joe Brower
I used them a lot, and I don't see any replacement anywhere

On at least the News / Activism page, when I hover my mouse cursor over the new search box and left-click, a yellow box magically appears that includes a dropdown menu that allows selecting between keyword, users, titles and Yahoo for your search parameters.  It does this for me on my Win XP Pro system with IE as well as Opera; I haven't tested with other browsers.  I'm assuming that it's a Flash thing, so if people don't have that installed it may not appear.  I'm no programmer so don't take my word on that aspect of things though.

13 posted on 03/10/2008 6:16:01 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
Hey, you're absolutely right. Dunno why it wasn't visible before, but I now see what you're describing. That will do. Thanks!

From a GUI standpoint (which I've done for over 25 years now), that's called "information hiding", and is considered a no-no (although it's done all the time). While this allows a window to be uncluttered, it also keeps you from seeing what's going on. Most folks like to have their controls all laid out for them whether they're in use or not -- witness how many folks dislike having to know to right-click on things to see options that otherwise you wouldn't even know existed.

It's like driving a car where the instruments and controls appear when you hold your hand near them, and are invisible otherwise. Not many buyers for that.

14 posted on 03/10/2008 6:23:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Hazcat

I found the search function and I like it. But I have to agree, what happened to the banglist?


15 posted on 03/10/2008 6:28:16 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: ShadowDancer

If I had pinged JohnRob, that might be true. I didn’t.

I can see where he’s going with this, and it is an improvement, or will be when he’s further along.

Constructive criticism would help a lot more than 1000 “I hate it” threads.


16 posted on 03/10/2008 6:33:36 AM PDT by papasmurf (I'm not worried anymore. I read Obama's "Blueprint for Change".)
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To: Brainhose

I thought (being computer illiterate) that I did something wrong. Glad to know for a change it wasn’t anything I did to screw something up.........:)


17 posted on 03/10/2008 6:36:28 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Joe Brower
Hey, you're absolutely right. Dunno why it wasn't visible before, but I now see what you're describing. That will do.

You probably didn't see it before because the last time you tried it, it may not have existed.  I've noticed several subtle changes that have gradually crept in days after the obvious GUI overhaul first appeared....such as the welcome return of the individual thread hit-counters.  It's nice to know how many people are reading a thread because that gives a considerably more accurate indication of the amount of interest it's generated than the number of posts on a thread.  In years past, I've posted threads that may have had 20 or so posts but had over a thousand page views.

It seems that gradual changes are ongoing around here.

Thanks!

You're quite welcome and I'm delighted if that's been of some help  :-)

From a GUI standpoint (which I've done for over 25 years now), that's called "information hiding", and is considered a no-no (although it's done all the time). While this allows a window to be uncluttered, it also keeps you from seeing what's going on. Most folks like to have their controls all laid out for them whether they're in use or not -- witness how many folks dislike having to know to right-click on things to see options that otherwise you wouldn't even know existed.

Perhaps balloon-tips will appear, such as what some software applications have? Or even an updated "Help" page.  Since development appears to be ongoing, perhaps such things will also magically appear in time if it seems that a significant number of people are having trouble with it.

But, I agree on the 'information hiding' thing....in this case it makes me wonder how many other 'goodies' I'm missing just because I haven't input the appropriate random and accidental commands to discover them.

It's like driving a car where the instruments and controls appear when you hold your hand near them, and are invisible otherwise. Not many buyers for that.
 

I am very happy about the fact that 'most' things pertaining to computing and the internet don't have the same penalties for user and designer errors that automotive stuff does   :-)

But, continuing with the automotive analogy, I would certainly like it if Ford and Chevrolet would offer a similar number of free functionality and safety-related upgrades as Microsoft and other software vendors do.  "OH! We've invented airbags!  Let's retrofit them into all of the older cars that we've produced over the past ten years, and let's do it free of charge because it saves lives!"   :-)


18 posted on 03/10/2008 6:42:57 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Hazcat

I just put the “banglist” on the top my sidebar so it is always there.


19 posted on 03/10/2008 6:50:27 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

HOW?


20 posted on 03/10/2008 7:29:00 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Hazcat
I absolutely hate it too...it is definitely reducing my FReeping time.

PLEASE...can somebody tell me how to search for user posts??

21 posted on 03/10/2008 8:04:49 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: All
Never mind...I guess I figured it out...sorta. There's a search option at the bottom page of an article.

But still...too many steps. The old way was much more user friendly, IMHO.

22 posted on 03/10/2008 8:08:38 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

That’s what I thought - I don’t have much problem with the new look, I think it’s cleaner.

I don’t use the items that folks are complaining about, though.


23 posted on 03/10/2008 8:09:51 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: truthkeeper
I absolutely hate it too...it is definitely reducing my FReeping time. PLEASE...can somebody tell me how to search for user posts??

I clicked on your name and the clicked “In Forum” and

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/posts-by:truthkeeper/

P.S. I don't think that has changed.

24 posted on 03/10/2008 8:12:54 AM PDT by McGruff (Tribal name: 'One with many knives in back')
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To: Hazcat

If you search for ‘banglist’ in the upper right corner, you can add ‘banglist’ to your sidebar.


25 posted on 03/10/2008 8:15:04 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside ( Ronald Reagan Would Back McCain - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1970504/posts)
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To: papasmurf

“I, for one, look forward to the progress being made.”

Now can I call you a self described progressive?

;-)


26 posted on 03/10/2008 8:48:26 AM PDT by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: sandyeggo
Thank you! I've been trying to figure out how that darn box works. :)

You're quite welcome and I'm delighted if that's been of some help  :-)

Now all we need to do is to come up with a way to force people to do a search before they post identical threads, read more than just the titles before they respond to posted articles, be polite, etc. etc. etc.  LMAO   :-)

29 posted on 03/10/2008 6:57:56 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Hazcat

The Banglist is the only reason I come to Free Republic.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/banglist/


30 posted on 03/11/2008 12:30:09 PM PDT by BorisTheBulletDodger (Bang!)
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