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Dead Airman's Affidavit: Roswell Aliens Were Real
FOXNews.com ^ | July 2,2007

Posted on 07/02/2007 11:58:15 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

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To: Quix

Quix, what have you learned abour the “drone” and why do you call it that?


121 posted on 07/02/2007 6:37:47 PM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Did you know that Kenneth Arnold was involved in another incident later, the Maury Island incident in Puget Sound. He wrote a book about it and his nephew, my good HS friend, has a copy of it. It involved casualities in a REAL X files encounter north of Portland OR. Can fill you in on the details...


122 posted on 07/02/2007 6:47:52 PM PDT by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: Ping-Pong

I thik my thoughts and seDiments about the drone are encompassed in the ISAAC’s website link and in the ATS CARET thread link above.

I call it a drone because most of those discussing it call it a drone. It also looks like a drone—too small to carry people . . . unless maybe it’s a Tardis . . . which it does not appear to be.

Thx for asking.

I suspect you can discrn my comments on the ATS thread.


123 posted on 07/02/2007 6:50:53 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Busywhiskers

I think you are joking.

HOWEVer, the Haut affidavit was released a couple of weeks or so ago on C2C.


124 posted on 07/02/2007 6:52:06 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: timer

Please do fill in the details, Timer!

And, how is Mom and your projects and health?


125 posted on 07/02/2007 6:54:04 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: theFIRMbss

Rocky Horror fans
research each and every song!

It’s just a jump to the left..........


126 posted on 07/02/2007 6:58:51 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: pissant
Where are Scully and Mulder when you need them?

Out screwing off...


127 posted on 07/02/2007 7:00:41 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Border Security is a foundation stone of National Security)
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To: TADSLOS

Old Mulder must have hated having to pose that way, huh?


128 posted on 07/02/2007 7:02:35 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Congressman with pyschotic supporters)
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To: Quix
This was 1947

I was a kid then, and I remember my fascination when I read the newspaper story, and it was BIG news. I don't remember anyone having a television set at that time, so the word was spread only by newspapers.

No one believed the government story then that it was just a weather balloon, and most of us still don't believe it.

129 posted on 07/02/2007 7:21:22 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen

I was born in 1947. So, I kind of have a special . . . connection beyond my Jr High School on study of the subject.

Certainly we heard stories here in New Mexico . . . and had our own fly over by droves of them in 1957. And the crash in Aztec, I forget what year.

Nice that someone as bright and mature as you are owns up to such truths! Thanks tons.


130 posted on 07/02/2007 7:30:17 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
I think the Roswell incident sparked my interest in reading, and my Mom bought me books by Jules Verne and H.G. Wells. I think I read every one of them before I was 12.

My Mom and Dad and many others clearly saw a cigar-shaped UFO about that same time here in the harbor area of Los Angeles while they were at a gas station. It was the talk of the town!

I was much younger, but I also remember the incident in the L.A. harbor area in 1942 during WW2 when it was reported that we had fired upon a supposed Japanese attack from the sea. I have read since that some believe it could have been UFO-related. Who knows? I remember the siren alert, which was our warning to put dark curtains over the windows, and we went out in the yard and saw gunfire in the sky from the battery at Fort McArthur. I think they referred to it as "The Battle of L.A.".

131 posted on 07/02/2007 7:51:12 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen; Quix

My youth group leader, when I was in high school, told us a bit about this. His dad was in the Air Force, I think he worked there at Roswell at some point. Anyways, I don’t remember details, but he said this “story” about Roswell, wasn’t a story...it was true. What most stands out was his fear to say anything more, because, IIRC, of government capabilities to pick up conversations.....that was very creepy to me, as a teenager to think about, too.


132 posted on 07/02/2007 7:54:56 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Borax Queen

you might be interested in this thread.


133 posted on 07/02/2007 8:04:54 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; janetgreen

No doubt.

The government has had the capacity to filter electronic communications and even snail mail for quite a number of decades. At least 3 decades that I can be fairly certain of.

And the parabolic microphones have been around a long time.

And who knows when the black ops folks had lasers-on-windows-capacities to pick up convrsations in distant rooms.

Then there’s the telephones being able to be turned into a microphone even when on the hook. And that was with the old rotary dial versions. Some insisted it was only on phones secretly modified to afford that capacity. But I’m not so sure. I hope that was true.

I doubt it’s true now. Certainly all cell phone traffic is vulnerable as well as all regular phone service.

Court warrants are and have been a non-issue for at least 30 years . . . a non issue because every phone line was accessible regardless.


134 posted on 07/02/2007 8:08:15 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: janetgreen

IIRC,

the WWII flap WAS about UFO’S. And an extensive prolonged one it was with anti-aircraft fired at them etc. I don’t remember many other details . . . though I don’t think many other details have ever been published.


135 posted on 07/02/2007 8:10:00 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; janetgreen

My memories are from about 30 years ago....so it’s difficult to have precise recall. I was, nevertheless, left with lasting impressions. I don’t recall thinking he was worried about his phone being wired; it was more like satellite capabilities, even then, or something advanced like that. We were all at his house the day he was telling us the little bit he did. I’ve always wondered what the full story was; he plainly stated he could not say anything further. I think he said if he said too much.....it would place him (and maybe his family) in jeopardy. (It’s also possible his father was in the Army...I just can’t recall.)


136 posted on 07/02/2007 8:17:09 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Quix; theFIRMbss; janetgreen; Borax Queen
Well connected and employeed people have asserted that we are 50 years ahead of everyone else.

I recently was told (last year), this same type of thing from someone in the FAA; that we obtained our information from the alien crafts at Roswell.

137 posted on 07/02/2007 8:28:10 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: All
Note to all: one thing I did discover during my UFO research period is that some conspiracies are real and do exist. Don't assume the U.S. government can't keep a secret; they sometimes keep the important stuff "hidden in plain sight" à la Poe's "purloined letter". For example, in 1978 few aerospace scientists had any idea that the United States Air Force had an active, flying jet airplane that was 99% invisible to radar. Yet that was precisely the case (the "stealth plane" contract was let in 1973; the Lockheed HAVE BLUE prototype stealth fighter made its maiden flight December 1, 1977). When the F-117 Night Hawk was unveiled in 1988 it created a sensation, especially when it was revealed that the aircraft had been operationally deployed since 1983.

And that's the above-ground stuff. I have suspected for some time that there are military and/or intelligence organizations that exist entirely outside the budgetary and constitutional system of the U.S. government. After all, the U.S. and its NATO allies had entire secret armies Europe that existed separately from and external to the NATO chain of command; these were known by a variety of names (the Italian one was called "Gladio"). These "stay behind" forces were designed to operate behind the lines during World War 3, fighting the Soviet invaders in each NATO country. These "Gladio" armies had their own chains of command, funding sources, and administration, and were kept almost completely secret until the USSR collapsed. Likewise, for all we know, there could be agencies that were set up during the Cold War as "Gladio" operations, still operating today using their own funding and chains of command. Who knows — there might be an agency so secret that even the president doesn't know about it...

Of course, there also might not be. It may be that what we see as Reality is all the Reality that exists — but I doubt it. I think everyone subconsciously knows that there is more going on in this crazy world than meets the eye — and that less of it than we think happens by chance. And so the mysteries remain unsolved: the JFK, RFK, MLK and George Wallace shootings; Vincent Foster's death; the Reagan assassination attempt; the Bilderberg Group; John Lennon's murder; TWA 800; the sudden collapse of the Soviet Empire, UFOs. It may be true that "shit happens" on its own, but we should never forget that sometimes shit is made to happen as well.

138 posted on 07/02/2007 9:09:36 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: nicmarlo; Quix
I recently was told (last year), this same type of thing from someone in the FAA; that we obtained our information from the alien crafts at Roswell.

I read about that in a book by Lt. Colonel Philip Corso called "The Day After Roswell". Fascinating, huh?

139 posted on 07/02/2007 9:30:54 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: nicmarlo

Sounds very reasnable, to me.

Thanks.


140 posted on 07/02/2007 10:47:15 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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