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STARE DECISIS
self ^ | 01/11/2006 | phoenix0468

Posted on 01/11/2006 7:11:26 AM PST by phoenix0468

- Lat. "to stand by that which is decided." The principal that the precedent decisions are to be followed by the courts.


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KEYWORDS: are; idiots; liberals
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The DemonRats insistence on the Honorable Alito’s refutation of his 1985 statement concerning abortion is absolute ignorance. They are saying that people are essentially unable to change their opinion unless they completely refute them. Well from the testimony that I am hearing from the judge, his repeated reference to Stare Decisis is, in my mind, a refutation of his past statement. But, of course, the ignorance of the left is so complete that they cannot make that very easy connection. It has become folly to think that a leftist liberal has the capacity for logical thought. They have embraced emotional reason so tightly that to make a rational decision is beyond possibility. I am very glad that I have over the course of my life distanced myself from people who use this thought process. I will cordially engage a liberal in conversation from time to time just for the simple pleasure of realizing just how easy it is to push their buttons. It is a kind of comic relief. Every time I have debated issues with a conservative minded individual it has been a mentally stimulating, and very educational experience. Even on those occasions where we disagree, I have come away with the appreciation of conversing with a person who uses valid logical reason in their arguments. I have very rarely come across a liberal with such a capacity for debate. These hearings are a shining example of the ludicrous ignorance and outright refusal to accept that with the reference to Stare Decisis, Mr. Alito has essentially refuted his 1985 statement. They cannot understand that though Mr. Alito has said that his statement was a valid opinion of his in 1985, many decisions that have been handed down since then has obviously changed that opinion. I used to be of the opinion that I should keep an open mind with all individuals and their viewpoints, but the past decade of emotion driven rhetoric from the left has changed that. A liberal is unable to form a valid opinion based entirely on fact and reason. Therefore, I will just continue to play my cat and mouse game with their minds and enjoy the humor that is derived from it.
1 posted on 01/11/2006 7:11:28 AM PST by phoenix0468
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To: phoenix0468



ANTONYM: John Kerry


2 posted on 01/11/2006 7:23:52 AM PST by YouPosting2Me
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there is a live thread in breaking news that this info is posted on, you are welcome to post there, too


3 posted on 01/11/2006 7:26:33 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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I would love to. You think I should copy my statement from here? I think I will.


4 posted on 01/11/2006 7:27:29 AM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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Sure over here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1555919/posts

And the def. for stare decisis wasposted on yesterdays thread, if you like


5 posted on 01/11/2006 7:29:51 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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The "stare decisis" thing is vital to the lefties because it's the one and only thing that protects their sacred "right" to abortion. A piece of bad law must not be re-examined as long as it advances their agenda. If Roe were overturned, the various state legislatures would be required to do their jobs with input from their constituents and the pro-abortion folks know they'd lose.

In his role as an Appellate Judge, Alito has had little choice but to follow the lead and precedent of the Supreme Court, but once a part of the Supreme Court, he can play a significant role in altering existing precedents.


6 posted on 01/11/2006 7:59:58 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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All I know is that I'm sick of hearing politicians repeat this ad nauseum and act like it makes them seem smart.
7 posted on 01/11/2006 8:01:33 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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What exactly are you sick of hearing politicians say? The only one stating Stare Decisis is Alito, and he's not a politician, he's a judge.


8 posted on 01/11/2006 8:23:27 AM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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They've been yapping it on the talking head shows.

PS: I kinda figured out Alito is a judge.


9 posted on 01/11/2006 8:28:07 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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Yes, but they apparently can't grasp that concept because they are still attacking Alito on the issue even though he continues to comment on stare decisis. What is their major malfuntion besides the inability to comprehend this phrase. I believe the libs only agenda is to attempt to malign any person who calls themselves a conservative. This is a dysfunctional effort; but hey anything that diverts their focus from winning congressional seats right?


10 posted on 01/11/2006 8:30:53 AM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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Dredd Scott was deemed by the US Supreme Court to have been the "property" of another man.Given that this can no longer happen,wasthe change due to the passage of a Constitutional Amendment,or did the Supreme Court reverse itself?
11 posted on 01/11/2006 8:31:38 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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Oh, what shows are you watching? I am watching Fox News and the actual hearings. Those talking heads are usually liberally motivated and rarely have a logically thinking politician involved. BTW, what are these talking head politicians opinion on Alito referring to Stare Decisis?


12 posted on 01/11/2006 8:33:38 AM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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Are you not aware of the 13th amendment?


13 posted on 01/11/2006 8:37:14 AM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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Just working and FReepin, I think the Boss might take exception for a request for cable TV.


14 posted on 01/11/2006 8:39:30 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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Are you getting at the possibility of the congress passing a constitutional amendment that outlaws abortion? I think that any attempt to do so would be immediately challenged in the SCOTUS and very likely found unconstitutional.


15 posted on 01/11/2006 8:40:55 AM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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Are you getting at the possibility of the congress passing a constitutional amendment that outlaws abortion? I think that any attempt to do so would be immediately challenged in the SCOTUS and very likely found unconstitutional.


16 posted on 01/11/2006 8:40:56 AM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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Are you not aware of the 13th amendment?

Are you aware of the Emancipation Proclamation,January 1863?

17 posted on 01/11/2006 8:43:12 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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Well then, what shows have you recently watched that have commented on Alito's references to Stare Decisis? What I am saying is, watching news shows about an event that is being publicly aired IMO is somewhat counterintuitive. The reason I am not watching nor will I watch any talking head show that covers this event is because I am watching it myself and will therefore form my own opinion of it and Judge Alito. What some self important talking head thinks is to me unimportant.


18 posted on 01/11/2006 8:45:10 AM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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Yes I am aware of it, but not as familiar with it as I am with the 13th amendment. The Emancipation Proclamation came from the President not the SCOTUS so how is this relevant to Scare Decisis?
19 posted on 01/11/2006 8:48:22 AM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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(sic) Stare (sic)


20 posted on 01/11/2006 8:49:24 AM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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