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To: MacDorcha

You must have been tired because that post made no sense.

The evidence is the REAL tangible stuff we have. All of that supports Creation. Evolution keeps getting adjusted to fit the evidence.

There is no evidence that gives a hard "age" of unobserved things. Only guesses based on theories and suppositions. Such as the belief that the speed of light is constant -- which more and more are doubting.

To use a better analogy, it's like 1+x=y.

We don't KNOW x, but scientists throw in a value to X based on assumptions, so in this case '1' and derive '2' for the value of y.

But x could have been .5 in the past, 1.5 in the past or whatever.


55 posted on 09/09/2004 5:38:50 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

Yeah, in retrospect, I shouldn't have posted that.

Now, though, as for math. We observe nuclear decay NOW, we know the equation for it's decay. Thats how we bombed Hiroshima and Nagisaki, from facts. Or are A-bombs a simple matter of mind over matter?

From what we know of decay, we use to age stars, we base it on size, colour, and other variables. We then observe stars fitting into the catagory we deemed "about to die" as they collapse, and it fits into our equations and our math. Thus by the brains God gave us, we have the ability to learn about our surroundings. Again, I ask you, why would God put evidence in the same context as we exist now of a non-existant past? To throw us off track? Or to put us on the right one?

As for the "Creation never changes it's story, so it must be true, because Evolution keeps changing it's story" bit...

I am not saying so, but keep this in mind when using that logic: A stopped clock is even right twice a day. Just because you stick to your story, it doesn't make your story any more or less valid than another.

You want real tangible evidence for evolution from Divine intervention, but do not offer anything more than the Word written down by Man after several generations of oral traditions? You gotta admit, that's asking a bit much of a community.

You're telling them they aren't valid simply because it doesn't fit with your understanding, and then your only support is the Book. You and I hold it with utmost importance, but you just asked them to provide more than someone's word in support of their evidence, but your only evidence to them IS someone's word. Hardly seems like an acceptable offering to me and to them.

BTW, evolutionary theory propses we all came from the same original humans, in a small tribe in asia. The Bible proposes we all came from the same original humans, in a small tribe, in an unknown place, without an explanation of where the other women came from.

The only real problem with evoluionary theory is the idea of abiogenisis, but that was derived from some scientists who simlpy wanted God out of the equation. That is unsupported, and that is where I stand my ground.

If you feel the idea that "life changes" is so unsupported, then please, never listen to a doctor if they tell you to use stronger medications for a bacterial infection. It is life's very nature to adapt and to change, this is a form and function God gave it, as it is precious and God wanted His Creation to survive.


56 posted on 09/09/2004 6:22:38 AM PDT by MacDorcha
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