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To: NorseViking
I found a Tagliavini report but it doesn't seem to help one side or the other or, rather, it seems to help both sides:

"That was the headline of the report, which of course the Russian government seized upon. But there was also the very damaging (for Russia) context of what happened before August 7 and what happened when Russian troops entered South Ossetia on August 8, threw out the Georgians and then marched on Gori. Dozens of pages set out in detail Russia’s multiple violations of international law before, during and after the conflict.

Of course the report had its flaws. Its multiple authorship made for some awkward reading. It would have benefited from more information about what was happening in South Ossetia prior to the conflict. The behind-the-scenes role of the United States was signally missing—Saakashvili’s decision to attack was shaped by a perception of how the George W. Bush administration in Washington would or would not react.

But the Tagliavini Report laid down an important baseline of facts about the war and set a precedent that recent controversial events could be examined in a short time-frame and not just left to historians.

Unfortunately, those lessons are now being buried under the rubble of the new conflict in Ukraine and many people are busy rewriting the history of 2008 in the light of Ukraine.

On the anniversary of the conflict in Georgia in August this year, the Russian newspaper Moskovsky Komsomolets published three commentaries drawing direct parallels between the war in South Ossetia and the fighting in Donbas.

Mikhail Alexandrov declared, in highly provocative fashion, that Russia’s “mistake” had been in not finishing the Saakashvili government off and this had emboldened the Ukrainians in 2014:

The Saakashvili regime survived, it was not punished. What is happening in Ukraine is a direct result of the fact that in 2008 we did not pursue things in Georgia to the end. The junta in Kiev feels that it has absolute impunity, it is confident that Russia will not overthrow and punish it. That is why it is so brazen. And the West, seeing that Russia did not stick it out to the end, decided that it can do what it wants in Ukraine.

At the other extreme, many people never wanted to accept that the former Georgian government bore any culpability for the 2008 tragedy.

After what was effectively Part 2 of the 2008 conflict—the brutal Russian military intervention in Georgia and Moscow’s recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent states—the Georgian government began to re-write the whole post-Soviet history of its conflicts with its minorities.

Georgia’s 2012 National Security Concept was much more explicit than the 2005 document it replaced in blaming Russia for the conflicts in Abkhazia and South Ossetia of the early 1990s. It talks of “political and economic instability caused by the Russian Federation.”

A new narrative emerged which, either naively or cynically, seeks to ignore the grievances that Abkhaz and Ossetians felt against Tbilisi and argues that the only problem is “Russian occupation.”

Some Georgians have now used the Ukraine crisis to gild their own version of history. In the first place of course this applies to the new governor of Odessa, Saakashvili, who is trying to start again in Ukraine and rebuild his tarnished reputation.

Yulia Latynina, a neoconservative Russian commentator, who always idealized Saakashvili, has waged a furious campaign over the years against the Tagliavini Report. She even compared it to the 1938 “Munich Agreement.”

More recently, as Heidi Tagliavini herself took on the role of negotiating between Kiev and Moscow on behalf of the OSCE, she has come under attack again for allegedly selling out Ukraine, as she had allegedly sold out Georgia. Latynina called her a “Euro-bureaucrat,” who had somehow facilitated “an open betrayal of Ukraine and the capitulation of Europe before Russia.”

https://carnegiemoscow.org/commentary/61451


104 posted on 01/24/2023 9:33:48 AM PST by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Tagliavini report is anti-Russian in nature for obvious reasons but it fails tobobstruct the fact that Georgia was the aggressor. Genocide or not.

Three days prior “Russian invasion” Georgia started the operation “Clear Field” with the idea to restore control of two rebel territories. It was widely covered by media.

The operation included the bombing of the Russian barracks. The troops weren’t “Russian invaders” but the peacekeeping force under OSCE jurisdiction. Dozens were killed. The Georgian rampage in breakaway republics is on video as well. It may be not a genocide but pretty indiscriminate towards civilians and very ugly.

It took Russia a couple day to react.

Then the media forgot its own prior reports and began to cover it as “Russian invasion”.

Georgia made a ton of claims of how the Clear Field was a reaction to it, but it was a flat out lie.


117 posted on 01/24/2023 8:47:55 PM PST by NorseViking
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