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Is it time for Ukraine to attack and occupy Belgorod?
Self authored ^ | 15 May 2022 | Self

Posted on 05/15/2022 12:54:57 PM PDT by MercyFlush

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To: nomorelurker

Libya has an endless stream of useless mercs to waste and Russians have a footprint on the country already.
Turkey has already verbally stated they are with Russia though they want the war to end.

Watch the battle lines fall into play.


81 posted on 05/15/2022 5:25:44 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: MercyFlush
Russian nuclear threats have become tiresome. Do it...

Wow just wow.

82 posted on 05/15/2022 5:29:22 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Love's redeeming work is done)
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To: Jim Noble

Bullies irritate me. What can I say?


83 posted on 05/15/2022 5:33:04 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: V V Camp Enari 67-68

A logbase city, road, rail and air hub critical to ops/conops? Left unguarded?
That’s a mighty bold risk right there.

I did state I was speaking tactically, not necessarily operationally or strategically.

I’m a field grade boots in the mud type, not a GO.


84 posted on 05/15/2022 5:40:31 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: mountainlion

“ Ukraine does not have enough military supplies nor men to attack Russia. Russia would bring overwhelming power to take the whole of Ukraine if they did that. Bill Clinton took away Ukraine nukes. Nato is running out of our supplies. Europe does not want gas, oil and electricity shut off. Russia destroyed the biolabs that the deep state had at the border.Russia holds most of the cards.”

A couple of months ago I would have agreed.

Now? Not so much.


85 posted on 05/15/2022 6:49:37 PM PDT by jdsteel (Do I really need a /sarc?)
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To: jdsteel

Now? Not so much.

I expect less than half of what we hear is true.


86 posted on 05/15/2022 7:38:54 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: MercyFlush
Belgorod is currently undefended and seizing it will underscore the weaknesses of the Soviet military

You're a fool. If that happened, Russia would destroy Western Ukraine with "shock and awe" campaign even though they Russians have absolutely no interest in anything but liberating the ethnically Russian part of the country.

Russia owns the air and sea. They could destroy any city at any time. They have been running up to 300 sorties a day.

You're dumb because you believe the Biden regime propaganda. But we all know neocons aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.

87 posted on 05/15/2022 8:48:08 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MercyFlush

[Russian nuclear threats have become tiresome. Do it or STFU already.]


Indeed. Putin’s too risk-averse to order a general mobilization but risk-tolerant enough to use WMD’s? I’m skeptical.


88 posted on 05/15/2022 10:57:42 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Manly Warrior; MercyFlush; Gen.Blather; PIF; Kevmo; BiglyCommentary; DoughtyOne; ...

If not done carefully, it could give Putin the excuse to go nuclear, or a general mobilization. On the other hand, carefully targeting specific military targets like railroad marshalling yards, military supplies, and key bridges if there are some would be good, perhaps from Ukraine with long range target acquisition missiles and drone spotting over the city. Great care to avoid collateral damage to civilians would show the difference between the Ukrainians and the murderous Orks. Perhaps timed for when Putin is in surgery?


89 posted on 05/16/2022 12:55:47 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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To: MercyFlush; All

Russia and China cannot develop a strong NCO system. That requires independent thought which is exactly what these dictatorships cannot allow if they want to survive.


90 posted on 05/16/2022 1:14:58 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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To: MercyFlush
Regardless of what Ukraine decides to do here Belgorod is critical and vulnerable and it is a legitimate target.

Moscow is a legitimate target. I say the invincible Ukraine army march on Moscow and take the city, then march east and take the rest of Russia. Then they should make a defense pact with the non-nation of Taiwan and overrun and take all of China and have a thousand year dynasty. Because, why not.

91 posted on 05/16/2022 2:02:42 AM PDT by woodpusher
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To: delta7

Question is, are the Ukies dumb enough to poke the bear?

The UA knows full well the Russian policy is to use nuclear weapons if it invaded and attacked even by conventional weapons. For a country that cannot yet reclaim a significant portion of its own country due to lack of small arms, ammo and kit, attacking another country is sheer folly - but since both military commands are poor, expect blunders.


92 posted on 05/16/2022 3:39:11 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: gleeaikin

Sorry, Putin didn’t need a rational reason for his illicit invasion in the first place. He wouldn’t need one to use any weapons or all.


93 posted on 05/16/2022 4:38:47 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: Dr. Franklin

Naw.

But cutting the Supply lines to Izium!

Pushing in from the West to retake Kherson !
… then on to Melitopol

And retaking Snake Island.


94 posted on 05/16/2022 8:07:39 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: MercyFlush
’d be fighting for the USA

If by USA you mean banksters, globalists, technocrats, 10s of millions of peoples residing here for the gibs and people who absolutely despise you and yours, I guess you'd be correct.

95 posted on 05/16/2022 8:54:08 AM PDT by riri (There can be no unity with the wicked, their servants, or their slaves.-Vox Day)
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To: riri

“If by USA you mean banksters, globalists, technocrats, 10s of millions of peoples residing here for the gibs and people who absolutely despise you and yours, I guess you’d be correct.”

Gee, you sound just like Bernie Sanders. Is there anything else you’d like to tell us, Bernie?


96 posted on 05/16/2022 9:02:12 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: Kazan

“Russia owns the air and sea.”

Indeed. Russia has even sent ships to occupy the bottom of the Black Sea!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


97 posted on 05/16/2022 9:05:20 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: MercyFlush

You type “Ukraine” as if NATO is making the tactical decisions and supplying their military weapons.


98 posted on 05/16/2022 6:49:56 PM PDT by dmam2011
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To: dmam2011

And you type as if your head is inspecting your own colon.


99 posted on 05/16/2022 6:57:05 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: MercyFlush
This is not going to happen. Ukraine would be crazy to try it.

Ukraine's goals are driving the Russia military out of its territory and heading off future invasion attempts. This is why taking back Crimea is a possibility. Attacking Russian territory will not help accomplish these goals.

Under Russian law only an attack on Russian soil is legal justification for a full mobilization. A Russian military operation outside of Russia territory provoking a attack on Russian soil is irrelevant here. Trying to capture Belgorod would give Putin political cover for all his mistakes and give him what he needs to escalate the war.

Inside the Russian government there is no real opposition to Putin's expansionist policies. The entire Russian Federal legislature backed seizing Ukraine. As long as there is no real threat to Russian borders, a full mobilization would trigger real opposition to Putin. Attacking Belgorod would give Putin and his allies a rallying cry to use to justify whatever they want.

100 posted on 09/20/2022 2:59:36 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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