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To: ealgeone

As is typical throughout history, the enemy was underestimated.

After the breakout from Normandy, and the successes of the falaise gap encirclement, the allied armies got what the Japanese had called ‘victory disease’...a phrase used to describe theIr early conquests in the Pacific.

The debacle of market garden should have been a clue that the Wehrmacht was certainly not yet defeated, but it was ignored

Ike, Bradley and Monty should have known that wacht am Rhein, or something similar, was coming. Their arrogance did not allow them to consider that such an offensive could still be launched by the Germans at that point in the war


24 posted on 11/14/2021 6:36:58 AM PST by QualityMan ( I got nuthin...)
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To: QualityMan

Agree. There was an intelligence failure that lead to the BoTB.


27 posted on 11/14/2021 6:49:35 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: QualityMan; ealgeone
Every single survivor of The Bulge that I've talked to has said "Oh yeah, we knew it was coming.", or words to that effect.

They're mostly all gone now.

29 posted on 11/14/2021 6:55:19 AM PST by OKSooner (AFTER THE FAIR TRIAL! Always say "After the Fair Trial". )
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To: QualityMan

I’m reading a book on the bombing of Bari, Italy and the Brits had Victory Disease. They claimed the Luftwaffe was finished. The Germans bombed the harbor which released mustard gas that was being transports by US ships. That one raid set back the offensive for 4 months.


33 posted on 11/14/2021 7:00:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: QualityMan
Market-Garden was a complete disaster.

However the Wehrmacht wasn't involved in the fighting.

The Allies had the rotten bad luck of landing in an area occupied by two Waffen SS panzer divisions. It was these two divisions that the Allies went up against.

45 posted on 11/14/2021 11:12:12 AM PST by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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