Breaking News: Protest In Melbourne, Police Officer Leaves Ranks, Resistance Continues

"these people are fighting for the rights of people both vaccinated and unvaccinated...

...we're not used to seeing what we're seeing in Victoria and it's horrifying police not only in all states of Australia but all around the world.."

Retired Qantas Airline Captain Graham Hood Speaks Out On Australian Protests Correcting the Mainstream Media's "Anti-Vaxxer" Narrative...

"I was greatly offended when I saw a pregnant woman have her hands placed behind her back and handcuffed because to me where was the welfare and concern for her if she felk iover. She had no ability to protect herself and that disturbed me greatly..." (at 11:25 in the video link below)

Those words and more spoke by Krystle Mitchell, a 16-year veteran of the Victoria Police seen cracking down on protesters on the streets of Melbourne, as she appeared in her uniform during an interview expressing her dismay at the situation as a prelude to her resignation from the force.

I just learned something in the last few minutes that Melbourne has advanced its clocks where it is now springtime Down Under.

Instuctions now going out for cars to gather at two locations for movement to two different roadside protest sites in just one half hour at 12 Noon.

The Northside and Eastside protest sites are now announced 15 minutes before Noon....

Just to add to Aussiebabe’s comments - I wrote this a few days ago. As she said, details do differ from state to state, but this is reasonably consistent.

A brief outline of what actually happened in Australia.
Following the Port Arthur Massacre, it’s certainly absolutely true that there were significant changes to Australian gun laws in most states co-ordinated by the Federal government. A new system of gun licencing was introduced which divided guns into different categories - A/B are basic longarms, C are basic semi-automatics, D are more powerful semi-automatics (military grade is a term commonly and somewhat erroneously used), and a couple of years later a H category was added to switch handguns into their own category - previously they’d been in A/B.

(The reason there is an A/B category is that A category includes things like air rifles and it was considered ridiculous to have a separate A licence, so A/B became the lowest level).

You have to have the right licence to own any fiream. An A/B licence is very easy to get. A C licence or an H licence is harder, but most people can still do it as long as they don’t have a serious recent criminal record. A D licence is genuinely difficult to get. There’s also technically speaking an E licence but that’s things like rocket launches and full scale machine guns and virtually no civilian will get one of those - only somebody who has a very unusual need to have one could. And there are separate licences for collectors of decommissioned weapons which aren’t hard to get.

The key to the system is you’re supposed to have a reason to own any firearm. It’s easy to provide a reason for an A/B, fairly easy for a C or an H, as long as you’re not stupid. D and higher is hard.

Now, the thing is - there were very few D (or E) weapons in the community to start with. Probably 99% of all firearms in private hands were A, B, C, or H. Australia has never had America’s gun culture or anything like it. While a fairly high number of Australians have always owned guns, the vast majority of those have tended to be hunting weapons and the things you hunt in Australia - well, you don’t need anything more than a basic semi-auto at most. Sure, some people might have had something more because they were really interested in guns, but that’s only ever been a small group of people.

So when the laws changed, the only people who faced the potential for having firearms confiscated were the very small number of people who had D or E category firearms (and that was less than 1% of people) or people with criminal records because a serious criminal record could stop you getting any licence, and even a minor, recent record, could stop you getting a C licence.

In a lot of cases, people who had D category firearms were actually grandfathered in and allowed to keep them. But that wasn’t guaranteed so there were some people who did have to surrender D or E weapons (I don’t know of anybody who got grandfathered for E category). And there were some people whose criminal past who would have had to surrender category Cs.

But all of this was a very small proportion of the firearms in the community.

At the same time as this was happening the government also funded a buyback of any weapons people chose to sell - you could take any guns you wanted in and be paid a genuine fair market value for them. This was considerably more than you’d normally get in a second hand sale. So quite a lot of people did take advantage of the buyback - about 600,000 guns were sold to the government under the scheme and destroyed - and this is the source of the photos of the big piles of guns that are sometimes used to illustrate claims of mass confiscation - the thing is, virtually all of the guns in those photos weren’t confiscated but were sold voluntarily by people who have chosen to keep them. Quite a few people used the money they got from selling old guns to buy new ones.

It’s difficult to work out precise numbers because figures for how many guns were out there in Australia at the time was nebulous - there were registration programs in different states, but they weren’t universal - they are now but they weren’t then. It’s estimated that there were somewhere over 3 million legally held firearms in private hands in Australia at the time - but how much over 3 million, and that’s only the guns held legally of course. But even if you use the 3 million figure, somewhere around 1% or 2% of firearms could actually be said to have been confiscated (in the sense that the person who handed them in couldn’t have legally worked out a way to keep them) while about 20% were voluntarily sold to the government by people who could have kept them.

If we’d had a culture where more people had had heavy weaponry, the proportion taken would have been higher. But that isn’t as big a part of our culture as it is in the US and never has been so the number was small. I can absolutely understand the people who owned those weapons being angry at what was done to them but it doesn’t mean ‘Australians gave up their guns’. The number of people who had to do that was very small.

Since then, the number of firearms in the community has steadily climbed so we actually have more guns out there than we had back then, although I think the per capita rate is probably a little lower - it’s hard to know for sure.

The important thing is - in real terms there isn’t that much difference between how many guns we had then and how many we had now. So suggesting things in Australia might be different now if we hadn’t given up our guns, is a nonsense.

Everything isn’t rosy here for gun owners. Universal licencing is a burden. Universal registration does mean that if the government ever decided to try and collect firearms en masse, it would be easier for them to do so. And the rules on importing firearms are arcane and complicated - if you want to buy a gun, you are really quite limited because most gun stores only contain a fairly basic range and it could take months of navigating a bureaucracy to get anything else. Firearms have to be secured when not in active use - there is no right to carry (it is possible to get permission to carry a handgun, but it is extremely difficult - I actually do have permission but I can’t even fully explain why without violating rules - it’s partly because I’m a retired officer of the Australian Defence Force, but even most retired officers of the ADF wouldn’t be able to get that permission (and I suspect that I’m going to have problems next time I renew because my circumstances have changed). Basically if you have guns so you can hunt, they need to be locked in their safe, with ammo in a separate safe, until and unless you are actually going directly to the hunting location. Police are also way too fast to overreact to firearms - there have been a number of cases where people have clearly acted lawfully in self defence, but the police have still charged them, used that to take their firearms (because they can if you’ve been charged with an offence) and left it up to the courts to eventually find them not guilty, and you can imagine the condition the guns are in even if they get returned...

This is no gun owners paradise. It’s just not as bad as sometimes gets made out.

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