Posted on 04/30/2020 11:36:49 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat
The results are in — most students are not impressed with distance learning.
The College Fix recently asked 1,000 students: “How has the quality of your education changed because your college or university moved its courses online due to the coronavirus?”
Fifty-four percent of students said it’s “somewhat worse,” and another 25 percent replied it’s “significantly worse,” for a total of 79 percent.
(Excerpt) Read more at thecollegefix.com ...
Getting laid on line ain’t quite up.to standards either? The college experience is forever ruined.
I suggest it’s because they actually have to do some work and submit it back.
That’s either a fake report from administrators, instructors and teachers or a survey of lazy minded students and morons. I brought up a couple of well educated young people with homeschooling, and most of it was easily done with online information.
Like most of this generation.... they want others to do for them.
I can tell from experience that it’s harder to access material needed for that work, especially with the libraries closed.
Some students do not have to be social in a classroom. That changes online, shy students have to face people they would rather not deal with. Zoom classes are okay, but without body language signals it is difficult to know when, or how, to answer. Tests were verbal, not written, another downside for shy people.
The college experience isn’t all about social life.
Today I told my 10 year-old daughter if she comes out with me I will buy her a new bicycle.
She turned me down saying: I am doing school work.
I told her next week.
It DOES NOT mean they are lazy, or stupid, but it is a major adjustment.
Leftist/globalist publications like the journal “Science” blame professors for the low quality of instruction because they “do not know how to teach online”. Then they give tips, like simplifying their lectures and other presentations so that they will “fit the online format”.
Could that be the REAL reason (plus the lack of back-and-forth feedback) for the low quality of online instruction?
Obviously there are just some classes that dont work well over a Zoom meeting. That has to be expected.
“Like most of this generation.... they want others to do for them.”
I teach online college courses. You are correct; it is not the instruction format rather student motivation and effort that is the key to online success. I generally fail 25%-40% of my students who don’t do the work and are then stunned by an F grade.
I think some of it might have to do with maturity level, level in school, etc. We’ve been doing our grad studies online since it started — via zoom. It’s highly engaging and demanding and I think we work harder this way. They also throw tests and quizzes at us constantly which forces you to read. But we’re older, employed, most married with kids, etc. It works for us.
I think for undergrads it just sucks ... destroys the whole concept of checking out that cute guy in your Tuesday history class ...what else is college about?? If this had happened to me when I was 22 years old I would have withered ... may not have even met my now husband of 33 years....so sad to think about.
I had a good laugh at my son doing chemistry lab online. It’s for sure not the same as doing things hands on. Hopefully it opens up this fall. Everyone staring at screens in the house is looking like a dystopian movie.
I would agree with that. They need to actually read and study on their own for the first time ever.
I can agree. I have been teaching online IT courses for 16 years and our university was a early pioneer in online learning along with U of AZ and a few others. Getting the students to immediately understand their responsibility in doing the required work is key. Many think that in a face to face class they will get all the answers in the couple of hours a week that they meet. In our courses, the week begins on Monday, ends on Sunday, in general, and they have full access to all assignments, forums, content materials, etc along with 7/week access to the professor. I also fail 25-40% overall who don’t do the work, stop doing the work, or getting caught cheating. Over 16 years, I have noted that the face to face students do less well than the online only students and that with the course materials, assignments, and timelines being exactly the same. The K-12 schools are just getting a toe into the online learning pond over the last few years and most had no idea what to do to take their courses online and be successful and engaging. Most where I live are blowing off any grading or testing, too hard. Students in K-12 have to have structured instruction, not just write a 1-page essay and do 10 math problems a day if they feel like it.
I disagree as a general statement. My son is struggling because his courses are not zoom meetings or any other online group meeting. It is a professor emailing or posting work that needs he wants done and then when he is emailed back for clarification on something the professors do not respond for days/weeks. No results of tests, and that is in room classes sometimes, so how do you learn when you have no clue what you screwed up and why until the final arrives? He is a junior in finance and what is he doing this semester, writing essays on financial history rather than learning the material he sign up for. Basically busy work.
Years ago when I went back to finish college I had to take a few online courses and I hated them also for the same reasons. I ask questions and for clarification on things I am required to do and when I never get an answer or I get it the night before the project is due it made my blood boil.
Any educational course treating the subject of audio/visual learning methods will tell you that the lecture method is the least effective way of transmitting information and putting it to good use. Lecturing might be good for philosophy, but very,very poor in botany or forestry, and not good at all in quantitative chemistry experienced in the laboratory.
Pick the subject, and you will know immediately whether distance learning or computer screen learning is fit or not.
Furthermore, often the student's preferred source of motivation is the presence and personality of the professor, particularly in advanced topics. Online instruction is not the best way to obtain immediate rewards from the instant interactions with teacher and fellow students all present in the same physical context.
Online projection of information is one way of getting it, and sometimes quickest, but not necessarily the best. One-on-one interaction with the teacher is by far the best and most thorough method of maturation in a particular line of work. And that is not "distance learning."
Lack of motivation is not the only issue in play here, and one who assumes that shows a defective grasp of the educational process itself.
Should have told her you would get her a pony. Lol. :)
I wonder how they are going to implement the mandated LGBTQ curriculum that is due to go into effect in many states July 2020.
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