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To: Starman417

What if there was a coup to overthrow the President and the media was behind it?


12 posted on 11/07/2019 12:25:14 PM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Harpotoo

There is! Traitors are the disease! The firing squad is the cure!


29 posted on 11/07/2019 1:11:56 PM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Harpotoo
As for the media- they’re simply a**holes. This is the biggest story arguably in the history of the country and no one other than Fox has the slightest interest in it.

One wonders if they’ll cover the coming indictments.

What if there was a coup to overthrow the President and the media was behind it?
. . . and what if a Warren Court decision enabled “the media” do do it?

The Morrison v. Olson decision is now considered bad law, which is useless to cite as a precedent. And yet, but for Antonin Scalia, Morrison would have been a unanimous decision. Scalia wasn’t on the bench in 1964 when Justice Brennen, writing for a unanimous Warren Court, said that the First Amendment implies that public figures generally couldn’t sue for libel. Justice Scalia explained why that is wrong.

Scalia argued his view on “textualism” was the ultimate defense of the First Amendment. In March 2012, an Associated Press report said he told an audience at Wesleyan University that the Court’s early justices would be “astonished that the notion of the Constitution changes to mean whatever each successive generation would like it to mean. … In fact, it would be not much use to have a First Amendment, for example, if the freedom of speech included only what some future generation wanted it to include. That would guarantee nothing at all.”

That opinion didn’t prevent Scalia from harsh criticism of what is widely viewed as one of the essential court rulings protecting free speech and a free press — the 1964 decision in New York Times Co. v. Sullivan.

At the Newseum in the Aspen Institute 2011 Washington Ideas Forum, Scalia said the landmark ruling meant “you can libel public figures without liability so long as you are relying on some statement from a reliable source, whether it’s true or not.

“Now the old libel law used to be (that) you’re responsible, you say something false that harms somebody’s reputation, we don’t care if it was told to you by nine bishops, you are liable,” Scalia said. “New York Times v. Sullivan just cast that aside because the Court thought in modern society, it’d be a good idea if the press could say a lot of stuff about public figures without having to worry. And that may be correct, that may be right, but if it was right it should have been adopted by the people. It should have been debated in the New York Legislature and the New York Legislature could have said, ‘Yes, we’re going to change our libel law.’”

But in Times v. Sullivan, Scalia said the Supreme Court, under Justice Earl Warren, “… simply decided, ‘Yes, it used to be that … George Washington could sue somebody that libeled him, but we don’t think that’s a good idea anymore.’”

JUSTICE SCALIA: THE 45 WORDS — AND ORIGINAL MEANING — OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT

Justice Scalia explained that

In my quote from the link, I highlighted "a reliable source” which Sulivan allows reporters to rely on as defense from an accusation of libel. Who would be “a reliable” source? Who else but the Associated Press? But the AP “wire” is a virtual meeting of all major news outlets - and as Adam Smith pointed out, “People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.” The wire services have created “a conspiracy against the public” which has been in effect since memory of living man runneth not to the contrary. That conspiracy promotes its own influence and denigrates the competence of society:

“The republican principle demands that the deliberate sense of the community should govern the conduct of those to whom they intrust the management of their affairs; but it does not require an unqualified complaisance to every sudden breeze of passion or to every transient impulse which the people may receive from the arts of men, who flatter their prejudices to betray their interests.” ― Alexander Hamilton

44 posted on 11/07/2019 5:41:49 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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