An Impending Shooting Civil War

It is my contention that we are just one bad event away from a shooting civil war in America -- and in fact if you ask Steve Scalise it may have already started.

The political process is often fraught with severe language, money and hard-fought contests. But in the end there are winners and losers; a person who loses by one vote still lost, while the person who wins by one vote still gets the office. The margin is immaterial and, in the context of a Presidential Election, the popular vote doesn't matter; it is the electoral vote that counts and thus all candidates tailor their particular political process toward that outcome.

Twice now in recent history the left has refused to accept the outcome of that process. The first was Bush .v. Gore, which went to the US Supreme Court. Said court wisely refused to intervene in what was a political process, leaving said process intact, and Bush was seated as President. In doing so the issue of refusal to accept the outcome of an election was left for another day, and, for the most part, the left bided their time and then came back with a winner in 2008 in the form of Barack Obama.

But this time no such thing happened. Hillary Clinton lost. She didn't lose by much, but by the rules of the contest she lost. Unfortunately the left not only refused to accept the outcome at the time two years later it still refuses to accept the outcome.

Let me be clear on this -- if you're bitter that there was no President Pantsuit that's fine. Losses can be bitter, especially when you really think you should have won. But no matter what you think by the rules of the contest Hillary lost to Trump -- period.

But if you go beyond being bitter, start up hashtags like "#Resist" and then put that into action both inside and outside the government to disregard and disrupt the results of a valid electoral process you are not only violating the law you are inciting a shooting civil war.

This sort of activity by people inside the government is treading right to if not over the line of insurrection. The use of government force for unlawful purpose, intentionally, meets the definition; it is an attempt to overthrow the law of the United States by corrupting the monopoly on deadly force that the government has and directing it unlawfully against certain people for political purposes. This is not a "petty offense"; it is a direct assault on and attempt to overthrow the result of a lawful elective process and according to the above link it's still going on today.

If your bitterness with the outcome of an election incites you to libel people and attempt to destroy institutions because you didn't get the result you wanted in the last political contest, such as is going on right now with Brett Kavanaugh, you are also inciting a shooting war. And let's be clear; while there were plenty of people on the right who didn't like Kagan or Sotomayer, and still don't (I'm among them) my issues with them, along with others on the right, begin and end with their refusal to adhere to the boundaries of the written Constitution. That I didn't like the way they might rule on this issue or that for this reason did not give me license to accuse either or both of them of felony sexual assault for political purposes and to sandbag alleged misdemeanor claims for the nakedly-explicit purpose of trying to delay a vote until after the next election takes place rather than to address an actual grievance.

It's amusing to watch the daily smarmy-talking-heads on Tout-TV (otherwise known as CNBS around this blog and here's looking at you, Cramer) shouting with joy as the markets make new highs on the bubble-infused schemes fueled by trillion dollar deficits that are returning less GDP expansion than the monetary expansion as a percentage of the economy. That is, said alleged "expansion" is factually false; the economy in real terms is contracting! This is basic math; if you expand the money supply by 5% ($1 trillion on a $20 trillion economy) and GDP expands by 3% then the actual result is a 2% contraction in economic output measured in the production of goods and services. Put in household terms that you can run up your credit card by an additional $2,000 when you have $40,000 of income does not make you $2,000 richer; you are in fact $2,000 poorer for doing so, plus the cost of interest! Never mind that if the current political situation continues the S&P 500 won't matter since it won't be trading anymore and all of those SJW-infused companies that make up the majority of its market cap will be laying in literal ashes. "What is Zero, Alex?"

There are those who think there could be some sort of "peace" in this regard but they're cracked in the head. We have a schism now, more-or-less, among the states -- there are those areas that are deep "red" and those that are deep "blue." While the "Reds" mostly leave the "Blues" alone the converse is not true. Witness the PA AG who has sought and gained national injunctions issued all the way across the country in Washington State! He's not content to remain inside Pennsylvania and deal with whatever admixture of political process exists there -- no, he wants to exert what he sees as "his power" all the way across the country, everywhere, even though by law he lacks any jurisdictional ability to do so. He makes a direct point of bragging about this all over Twitter too -- daily. Indeed his positions are only thinly disguised as part of a formal "#resist" movement.

If you have a train on a track and there is a switch up ahead set to go off a bridge that is out, and the cab of the locomotive has the control for said switch in it, then you have an obvious choice to make and only one correct choice.

Now put two people in that cab who get into a fight; one insists he will only agree to go down the safe track if the other guy is dead or permanently rendered subservient, the other says "over my dead body" since he's unwilling to die or live as a slave -- but he obviously doesn't want to go off the bridge either.

One of the two antagonists in the cab has to kill the other, or one has to jump. If they simply tussle in the cab both die and the train wrecks killing everyone in the cars behind the locomotive. It's a similar situation if you and the copilot decide to fight in an airplane that is flying; one of you is dying, one of you is jumping (hopefully with a parachute) or you are both going to die and the plane, along with everyone in it, will be destroyed.

When political animus spills over into action in the real world such as repeated criminal assault, as has been happening now with regularity and is being increasingly documented in video form and in their own voices by the political left there is a major problem. When that sort of activity is intentionally amplified and permitted by major corporate firms such as Facebook and Twitter while suppressing any sort of pushback whatsoever you now add an attempt to con the public into believing this is some sort of "organic" series of events -- when nothing of the sort is the case. When Chuck Schumer states on CSPAN that "There is no presumption of innocence" then the Rule of Law and due process are both dead and he is inviting, provoking and in fact inciting civil war. The conduct alleged is criminal; whenever one makes such an allegation due process rights attach. If one cannot find recourse in due process before the law then the only remaining recourse is to the law of the jungle. There are also those (Hirono) who have gone even further and stated that Kavanaugh is presumed guilty because she does not like his written judicial opinions. This is exactly identical to the Salem witch trials where one was presumed a witch because they had a black cat and were unmarried, which certain people found "distasteful."

The media, specifically but not exclusively CNN, is even worse -- they are intentionally lying and when the civil war they are inciting comes they are and should be first on the list of parties held responsible for the outcome. As just one example in the context of Ramirez they have intentionally lied about the fact that her attorneys have ignored and deflected seven separate attempts to obtain some sort of formal statement of facts and allegations made under penalty of perjury;instead her attorneys continue to insist on a trial in the media where there is no penalty for outright lies. Why is this? Might it be related to her being a board member of a far-left organization that has required, non-negotiable positions that constitute a flat-out demand to abrogate the First Amendment?

Throughout time and the history of nations there have been multiple political groups that have refused anything other than complete acquiescence and acceptance of their alleged mandates. Political Islam has been known for this for more than 1,000 years; it has rolled into nations, sometimes by force and sometimes by "migration"; in the latter case the "migrants" then multiply literally as part of their political design and, when they reach a material percentage of the whole they begin segregating society, creating "no-go" zones in which they enforce their own version of law by force and, if not challenged and driven out they eventually take over the entire civil legal authority of the country and replace it. It is this series of actions that led to the first of the Crusades; they were not, as is commonly put forward, a bunch of Christians rising up and deciding to "kill all the non-believers." In point of fact the First Crusade was initiated as a response to demands from Islamic invaders who had occupied the land now called "Israel", specifically Jerusalem, and forbid Christian pilgrimages. (Yes, those wars, like so many others, degenerated rather quickly..... war has a way of doing that and no, this is not a blanket claim on the rest of them; there's a clean argument that many of the other Crusades were more about trade routes than anything else.) Today we are seeing the beginning stages of the same thing in France and other parts of Europe, including the UK -- never mind Sweden.

Rome collapsed largely due to the same sort of nonsense within political groups. Venezuela was recently a nation with one of the greatest concentrations of oil wealth in the world, it fell victim to the same sort of "one way politically and we'll kill anyone who disagrees" game and now the nation is basically bankrupt and disintegrating. Argentina was recently a thriving economy. Today it's struggling to emerge from its own self-imposed Hell for the exact same reason.

There are plenty of those who say the right wishes to do away with abortion, and that this alleged intent to violate a woman's right to choose when and by whom to bear children justifies the sort of action we're seeing now both with Kavanaugh and others. That's a damnable lie and those engaged in it are going to condemn 100 million Americans to death if they keep that crap up. Even if Roe was overturned, which I have written on as being extraordinarily unlikely, that would only return the issue to the states. There are plenty of "Blue" states in which abortion would remain legal and available even if Roe was gone tomorrow and there is nothing preventing anyone from traveling to same -- temporarily for the purpose of medical care or permanently to reside there. The left knows this but they don't care; to them utterly nothing matters beyond demanding that every single city, state, town and person both behave and believe as they demand and if you don't consent they will do whatever they need to in order to force you to do so including initiating a shooting civil war inside the US. Is it any wonder the left also wishes to disarm you? If you're acting to incite a shooting war you most-certainly would desire to disarm those you intend to kill first!

These demands from the left are no different than that of radical, sharia-demanding Islamic nutjobs. There is not one shred of material difference between the two positions when boiled down to their essence and both are equally-capable of destroying a nation from within.

There are many who, I'm sure, will say I'm over-reading this. Nope. You're wrong. I have studied history for decades, from times long gone to far more-recent examples, and this is an unbroken pattern.

Nor am I calling for a "desired outcome." Nobody in their right mind takes rocks made out of tens of kilograms of pure U-235 and smashes them together with their bare hands. The outcome of doing that is a known fact and you have to be flat-out nuts to desire or effort toward that happening.

But that's where we're headed and it is not just the left that is responsible -- it is also those on the right and center including the current Republican Senate members who are tolerating and kowtowing to a strident group of nuts who refuse to respect the political process and accept its results. Never mind those in the House and Senate who have continually refused to bring impeachment or expulsion proceedings immediately against any and all in their bodies that refute a right to due process, a basic foundation of our country's political and legal system.

This must stop now; there is no way to know what the triggering event will be that will lead to catastrophe but that there are a huge number of politicians (Kamala Harris and Maxine Waters anyone?) and others who egg on and tolerate those such as the so-called "Antifa" running around committing violence in the name of the their favorite political position because they lost at the ballot box in 2016 is fact.

The corner case that sets it off, whether all at once or slowly and then quickly accelerating like a nuclear chain reaction will eventually happen. Indeed, we may already be too far down the road to stop it, but "stopping it" can never mean submission in the face of violent or illegal "resistance" when one loses a political contest. Instead those who engage in such conduct whether inside government or not must be held fully to account under both civil and criminal law, without fear or favor and those who egg on such from within the halls of elected officials must all be expelled instantly.

Piece-by-piece we either claw back the Rule of Law into our society or we lose our entire social structure to a degenerate mob and merely walking down the street in a city means death from nothing more complicated than a nutjob tossing bricks from the roof, say much less all the gang-bangers with guns.

I hope you don't mind if as long as nutjobs continue to insist on smashing those piece of U-235 together I go find somewhere that might be beyond the blast and fallout radius. Yeah, I know, I'll probably die anyway ("total war" has a way of laying waste everything) but it certainly beats sitting next to you while you egg on the fruit and nut brigade.

About the CWII Ping List

The CWII Ping List is short for Civil War II. It is NOT a list of people advocating another Civil War in America. It is a list of people who are interested in the parallels between the Civil War (or War Between the States, if you prefer) and our current situation, or more generally are noting the references to a 'coming Civil War' that are made in the press.

Of course sometimes this is merely a figure of speech, such as "The Tea Parties are fighting a civil war for the heart of the GOP". This would not merit a CWII ping.

On the other hand someone saying something like "The events in California are reminiscent of what happened in Yugoslavia in the period proceeding the Civil War" would merit a ping.

FR rules do not permit advocating for the overthrow of the Republic, and I am not aware of anyone doing so on the list. Still many do see that as the political climate worsens we may be heading in a direction that makes such a conflict all but inevitable, particularly if other avenues for resolving our differences are taken away. Such as widespread vote fraud by leftists making elections meaningless, or a small cadre of judges over-ruling all attempts to end destructive policies over the clear will of the people.

The correct keyword tag for the Civil War II ping list is "CWII". Please Freep Mail me to get on the list

It is okay in a liberal person’s world view to attack anything that is conservative. See a Republican bumper sticker; key the car. See a Republican eating in a restaurant; harass them. All of that is okay. But for a conservative, what do you attack? A person whose car sports a coexist bumper sticker? Attack somebody wearing a pussy hat? For a conservative, that would be absurd. Yet, the converse is not true. Any liberal can attack any conservative for anything. Just ask Maxine Waters.

We are getting close to having to shoot neighbors. I am not kidding. The intransigeant bullnsht of the idiots drinking everything their favorite actor in Hollywood urges them to do is unbelievable.

You can feel what it felt like in 1939 France, with the growing resentment. With manlier conservatives, resentment is OK because we break off relationship at 50% when we still have 50% of fondness left.

With feminine liberals , they keep in the relationship to further up their resentment to 80% or 100% so they do not have any fondness left..

This is what is terrible in such civil disputes, as opposed to cross border ones, it is that with a foreign power we break off at 50% and make no further war. In civil war you continue marinating a deepening resentment. And we already know where the deep state sides...

You had a good article until you went off into the weeds with your smashing 2 rocks made of pure U-235. 1) you could never grab one because the radiation would interupt your nervous system and overwhelm you before you could pick up said rocks and 2) smashing u-235 into itself won't do anything. thats a super simple oversimplification of how nuclear bombs work. and not even close to how fission works.

. But you are right., the left wants you as a simple minded slave or dead. period. there is no other options for anyone who argues with them. which means like the shark in jaws (bruce) you have to kill them to stop them.

Yes, we are headed like France toward failed state status.

Over there only the idiots obey the law because the law now is only a government who does not like you having a gun because he is just one of the other many mafias who do not like you having a gun unless directly enlisted and cannot enforce it otherwise

It just is a matter of not meeting your local government harasser parasite. The government is just another local thug acting with the media as if it is relevant and part of organizing the community and maintaining order. Nothing could be further from the truth. People should drop out en masse. If 8t were not for corporates helping them get tax money with automatic payroll enlistment, it would go to shts today

The left at some times would do a sort of verbal hazing for recruitment, but how can one be recruited when the left and leadership (up to Rino GOP) develops a bigotry and resenting contempt for Christians near 80-90%?

When you have Clinton raiding Waco, Tx and GOPe Danforth who explicitly in his book expresses his hatred of “Christian fundamentalists” do the white washing job for the FBI, how in the fck burning such bridges do you expect to have peaceful or relatively peaceful tax recruitmeng?

Screw these people.

Nope. No way.

Civil Wars happen in places where there are large numbers of unemployed young men. You need demographics where men aged about 16-25 outnumber men over 35 and you need unemployment overall well over 15%.

If and when the US slides towards 25% unemployment, that’s the time to worry.

"...Civil Wars don’t start when a few guys hunt down a specific bastard. Civil Wars start when many guys hunt down the nearest bastards. – An American..."

That why every person needs to:

A) form into leaderless cells, able to act independently of a bigger group, and

B) make a mental list of the bad people around you, so that when the time comes you don't waste time making lists.

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