Posted on 09/17/2018 10:52:24 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Last weekend, Incheon, South Koreas second-biggest port city, held its first-ever gay pride parade. Things took a violent turn, however, as more than 1,000 anti-gay protesters, including Christian groups, verbally and physically pushed back the 300 parade participants. The event was expected to last 20 minutes, but took hours due to the conflict.
Since 2003, homosexuality has no longer been classified as harmful and obscene in South Korea, but discrimination against the community remains widespread. While the countrys national human rights commission act states that individuals cannot be discriminated against on the basis of their sexual orientation, members of the LGBTI community say there is little actual protection for them in their daily lives.
LGBTI [people] are a hidden society in Korea, said Natalie, a queer-identifying woman in her early 30s whose name has been changed to protect her identity. We know we exist but it is very hard to be accepted as a normal member of society. People think its a disability or a mental illness; even though medical experts have said its not, many Koreans still think that.
In South Korea, members of the LGBTI community often refer to themselves as i-ban-in or second-class citizens, a play on the term for regular person. Many remain closeted to keep their jobs and relationships.
In a 2017 National Human Rights Commission of Korea poll, 92.6 per cent of LGBTI people surveyed said they had been victims of hate crimes. A Gallup Korea poll the same year found 58 per cent of Koreans were against same-sex marriage, while 34 per cent supported the idea, and 8 per cent remained undecided.
If someone is revealed as gay at work, they are not fired but are often bullied. People wont talk to them, or co-workers may feel weird around them, so relationships become uncomfortable, Natalie said. She said lesbians had a harder time, noting the countrys gender inequality: First, they are gay, second they are women.
For out LGBTI people living in the country, fitting in is made even harder by highly conservative traditional gender norms particularly in a nation where all male citizens between the ages of 18 and 35 must perform two years of mandatory military service.
A Korean man, who asked not be identified, said the military actively discriminated against non-binary people. When I showed up for orientation after my conscription in the early 2000s, there was a woman on the grounds standing next to a high-ranking officer. She was crying so hard, I assumed she was a girlfriend or partner reluctantly saying goodbye to someone who had been enlisted. It turns out she was one of the very few openly male-to-female transgender Koreans back then, and had been enlisted to perform military duties. The officer lectured her in front of all of us, saying things like Now what are we going to do with you? How can you live like this? He did not know what became of the enlistee.
In recent years, the South Korean military has been accused of targeting and exposing gay personnel, even creating fake dating apps to track down gay soldiers, according to the Military Human Rights Centre of Korea. Soldiers can be punished for disgraceful conduct, a term used to refer to homosexual behaviour, and jailed for up to two years, according to Human Rights Watch.
While transgender Koreans can now have their gender changed legally and most can be dishonourably discharged or exempted from military service, they still have a hard time in society. Its really hard for trans people to find jobs because there are standards for what jobs are for men and what jobs are for women, Natalie said. If you dont look female, you cannot find jobs that are defined as feminine. Your chances greatly reduce.
Many transgender Koreans get jobs that do not require identity cards to avoid discrimination, such as factory work and other low-paying labour, a transgender lawyer said in a report by the Kyunghyang Shinmun.
Despite being a plastic surgery mecca, South Korea does not see many gender reassignment surgeries, according to Joy Kang, the chief executive of medical tourism concierge service Eunogo. Korea has more of a trend towards skincare and facial plastic surgeries. I dont think gender reassignment surgery is something the government wants to promote, Kang said.
Dr Kim Seok-kwun from Dong-a University hospital specialises in South Korean gender reassignment surgery. He said while the countrys trans population estimated around 1,000-1,200 people has not grown much over the past decade, the age of patients is getting progressively lower.
Most of the people having surgery [used to be] in their 30s or even 40s and 50s, but now many teenagers and people in their 20s come to have it, Kim said, adding that those who are under the age of consent either receive it from their parents or show up with them, indicating the changing attitudes of older South Koreans.
Natalie feels acceptance has is slowly improving. More family members were at the Incheon Parade, that was very impressive, she said. Transgender Koreans and their mums showed up
We need to change our parents generations minds.
“people whose personal predilections are destructive to society and dangerous to children”
The Vatican drinks like fish don’t they?
Well, no wonder theyre upset.
Sodomy worship is not a virtue.
A formerly close friend of mine used to slam me for not being accepting of gays and now she’s an ER nurse.
Once she saw her fourth case of ‘perforated colon’ in a gay man she decided that maybe I had a point.
In China they are probably executed
Homosexual men are also likely to be pedophiles. They spread diseases and frequently have a mean-spirited disposition. They are not kid-safe or family safe. They also make lousy Priests.
Any other questions needing obvious answers?
Common sense, which seems to be totally lacking in the U.S.
Yes, I also stopped watching American TV years ago and now primarily watch Korean TV, and also Mainland China TV dramas are also surprisingly good. China’s TV is also pretty G-rated. If I had to point out a negative of the K-Dramas, you’re right, they’re always drinking, and they don’t seem to have any problems showing even main characters getting drunk.
Okay. What’s the “I” for? Incest?
And what happened to the Q?
How can people claim that South Koreans are anti-gay when they have so many K-Pop boy bands that are gayer than In Sync and the Back Door ... er ... Back Street Boys?
As we’re seeing in America with some dozens of genders and dudes in girls’ locker rooms, once you open that door, all the winged monkeys fly out.
Better to let everyone continue to do what they will behind closed doors, and keep everyone’s sexuality out of the public square.
I think “Q” means “Trust the Plan”
“gender reassignment surgeries”
No such thing. The DNA in every cell of the body still knows. amd sets, what the sex of the person is. The surgeries are nothing less than mutilation of the body, to help the obsessed individual continue in the obessessed pretense that they are not the sex they actually are. Even that surgery is less than half the effort as a lifetime of hormones are necessary to act on the poor body against what its natural hormone protection is doing.
None of it is “transitioning” or reassignment. It’s mutilation and chemically induced pretense, and still the body, the DNA, knows the truth.
It used to be that only the "western" left supported homosexuality. Now it's slipping into non-"western" countries as well.
What's next? Are the Commies going to get bitten by their own weapon???
Oh, and how come North Korea isn’t under the microscope? (As if I didn’t know!)
Uh ... because they recognize perversion when they see it and don’t feel obligated to mainstream it?
Indeed, a sane nation on this bleeding earth. Because men rogering men is sick and vile, unholy, and even against the very laws of nature. That is why. Oh bring back the good ole days when they kept their gayness to themselves.
Ewe. Maybe one day I will get my wife on board...but she still thinks I’m a hater.
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