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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sir,

But if Obama wasn’t eligible ( and he isn’t by many standards), then Ted isn’t either. While many of us understand the need to elect staunch conservatives, we must not forfeit principles of law either.

There are more substantial claims to native born status than either of these- It was obvious that McCain, born in Panama of two US parents on official duty to that nation is a natural born son, as are tens of thousands of other children of US diplomats and military/naval personnel serving overseas) even if he is utterly worthless as a politician.

If Ted indeed was born to Canadian citizen parents, then only a very liberal self serving view of the 14th would agree that he is a Natural Citizen of the US, as would be any child (anchor baby) of any form of legal or illegal alien in the US.

Quite certain that the Founders did not intend for that outcome in any manner.

Of course, the argument will continue and be divisive.

Some history/international practice tells us that citizenship follows the father blood ( the Harry/Meghan discussion etc- if Meghan dropped a child in the US, she foreswore her US citizenship to marry Harry, then would the prince be a US citizen? Would he be eligible by virtue of birth on US Soil to be president? Is he under the jurisdiction of the US ( not meaning subject to the laws of the nation or state, but entitled and obligated to duty to the nation? (It is accepted that a foreign person cannot be forced to fight for other than his country- but they may volunteer- as enlisted only, not commissioned)). So even if Obama was born on some portion of US soil, he would be a British subject ( since Kenya was a Brit colony/protectorate at that time).

What webs are woven!

I am glad we have a president who is without controversy in at least this area!

Peace.


120 posted on 08/19/2018 8:42:56 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior
Natural Born Citizenship is dependent upon the current Laws of citizenship AT THE TIME OF BIRTH of the person in question.

IF you have ONE HOUR, TWENTY TWO MINUTES and FORTY SECONDS to spare,
and IF you're of a LOGICAL MIND,
you MIGHT find this video enlightening.

Someone once asked me: The "birth certificates saying he was born in America" have, ALL THREE OF THEM, been proven FAKES!
His "US Passport" that he carries is UNLAWFUL, because he has no legitimate American Birth Certificate, and he has no LEGITIMATE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.

ReadHis mother could NOT impart U.S. citizen to her son, Barack Obama II, because she did NOT meet the legal requirements to do so,
at the time her son was born IN the Coast Provincial General Hospital, MOMBASA, KENYA at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.

Then read INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!




In summary as stated by WhiskeyX

Ponder that!

And don't forget about Hillary's trip to Great Britain to make sure Obama's Birth Registration in Great Britain disappeared.

NOW ... about Ted Cruz's citizenship ...

Well, what does the law say? So HOW does Ted Cruz's situation apply to this Law ?Citizenship Through Naturalization is different than Citizenship Through Parents, and you need to understand the requirements.
For a better understanding of both, go to those links.


An article well worth anyone's time is
164 posted on 08/19/2018 12:30:39 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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