[spankalib]

“...and know exactly when that all began to change.”
Forgive me. It has been changing from the beginning.

“Looseness” in dress, in attitude, in culture, is a frog in heating pot phenomena.

I’ve read accounts of despair against the leaflets that were nailed to telephone poles. That advertised the latest crimes, the latest ‘horrors’, the latest titillating shows to attend (picture how news was spread at the turn of the {last} century). (Advertising works, or they wouldn’t do it).

We have been going down this degraded, rumbled road for a long long time my FRiend.

To know “exactly”....would be when Eve took that bite.

[nopardons]

If I thought it would do any good, I'd post you a list of books to read, which would not only enlighten you, but catch you up on the topic; however, I can see that you would much rather remain in your own world of uneducated, blind, lack of factual knowledge little bubble.

For others who might read this this thread, true "consumerism", for EVERYONE, and about departments stores in particular, began in the 1800s, in Manhattan and somewhere about the same time in Europe and the UK. But special events, department store restaurants, and actual consumerism is a thing of the Victorian ( mid 1800s ) era.

And at that time, strict moral behavior, rather chaste dress, and public morality was not only common, but the ONLY acceptable "culture"!

I have no idea what you've supposedly read, nut what you posted is utter and complete claptrap!

Advertising was done in newspapers, ladies' magazines, and yes, even store sent out catalogues! Lord & Taylor even sold their own compiled cookbook.

Postings on lamp posts? You don't know what you're talking about!

Do yourself a favor and don't post about topics you know less than NOTHING at all about and if you want to drag religion into it...go haunt FR's religion section!