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Just saw 'DARKEST HOUR". Go see it!

Posted on 12/24/2017 5:49:44 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET

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To: DIRTYSECRET
Churchill was rejected after the war was done.

No, brush up on your history. He was rejected BEFORE the war was done.

The election was held July 5, 1945 (it took almost the entire month to finalize the count, but the voters rejected him at the beginning of July.)

At the time, it was contemplated that the war in the Pacific - Asia theaters would continue for an extended time, with the British working on Operation Zipper, and the Americans Operations Olympic and Coronet with a projected final victory in 1947.

61 posted on 12/24/2017 7:37:22 AM PST by PAR35
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To: DIRTYSECRET

It sounds good. Will rent when it gets to streaming on demand.


62 posted on 12/24/2017 7:37:45 AM PST by EdnaMode
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To: HamiltonJay

You might want to re-read that and take another swing at it :)


63 posted on 12/24/2017 7:40:04 AM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: rlmorel

While true in many of your assessments, the Soviets also had a great fortune for having a superb military command commander in Georgy Zhukov. His very success in defeating the Japanese in the Battle of Khalkhin Gol with very innovative tactics elevated him up the Red Army ranks really fast, and a refinement of those tactics proved to be decisive in defeating the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union.


64 posted on 12/24/2017 7:43:37 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: buwaya

Hamilton wasn’t given the troops that he needed (and asked for) and didn’t have adequate air support, particularly in the early phases.


65 posted on 12/24/2017 7:48:03 AM PST by PAR35
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To: buwaya

Of course Churchill wasn’t involved in the execution at the operational level, but he was fully involved in the conceptual aspect and approval of it, and in conception, it was a very, very bad concept.

The failure of that should have rested squarely on his shoulders. That he was able to resurrect his career later on is a tribute to him.

There was a very high degree of contempt (and rightfully so in some aspects) for “The Sick Man of Europe”, but to base the entire success on the plan on the judgement that they would just fold on their own land was beyond stupid.


66 posted on 12/24/2017 7:48:33 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Don W

Relatively new book on Churchill’s rise to prominence is “Hero of the Empire.” Mostly his Boer War experience, escape from a Boer prison camp etc. It is an excellent personality sketch of him as a young man.


67 posted on 12/24/2017 7:49:39 AM PST by yetidog
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To: Fhios; DIRTYSECRET
The context of my post was, from DIRTYSECRET's post at #20 "... On a smaller level it’s the same with Bush 41 after Kuwait. The people will never recognize the skill with witch he conducted the war and the diplomacy leading up to it..." which I feel is entirely appropriate parallel.

I doubt that on the whole, anybody, specifically DIRTYSECRET or myself was comparing GHWB to Churchill except in the narrowest of focus.

68 posted on 12/24/2017 7:53:48 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: ought-six; Sequoyah101

Sequoyah wrote:

“FDR was pretty much just a socialist political hack but the Greatest and Silent Generations idolized him.”

My dad didn’t idolize FDR either, reason being, he (FDR) knew beforehand that the attack on Pearl Harbor was coming, & didn’t do anything about it.


69 posted on 12/24/2017 7:57:26 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Saw it at 9 am Saturday, as all other showings were “sold out” from Friday noon through Saturday midnight!

No empty seat in the house, except that these theaters are small and seating is designed with lounge chair-type seats, so not many in it.

Movie was fabulous, all acting superb, production quality top notch, should take all oscars given out!

Only flaw (untrue or never, ever reported of Winnie taking public transportation) adds to the overall theme of “going down fighting,” “death before dishonor!”

70 posted on 12/24/2017 8:15:54 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Sequoyah101
The “nation that he saved,” chose Socialism over the Capitalism that the Labour Party of lefties offered the people “other people’s stuff” and they chose Santa Clause Joe Stalinist type of “lets all be equal” over Winnie!

Happens every time, including here!

71 posted on 12/24/2017 8:24:00 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: jerod

Did you forget Maggie Thatcher in your piece, or did you not consider her contributions of note?


72 posted on 12/24/2017 8:27:48 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Sequoyah101
Churchill saved his nation and probably the world from the Axis and was rejected after that by the very nation he saved. Never did understand that. Never.

Very simple ..Socialist Atlee promised free medical for returning soldiers and their families.

After winning...promptly nationalized coal, electricity, railway and implemented the NHS (National Health Service)

Rationing of foodstuffs remained into the early 50's

73 posted on 12/24/2017 8:29:07 AM PST by spokeshave (FBI = Feral Bureau of Insurrection)
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To: montag813

You are overlooking the Britain Firsters. They are fighting for their country.


74 posted on 12/24/2017 8:35:26 AM PST by FrdmLvr (“What Happened you ask?...Ma’am, you got your ass kicked.” Bannon)
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To: EEGator

Pure Churchillian, thank you!


75 posted on 12/24/2017 8:37:00 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: rlmorel

FDR tried government (Army) building military equipment..

Marshall told him to get the big guys involved or else..

He had enough sense to know that his way was failing..

The first eighteen months of the war the US had crap to fight with..


76 posted on 12/24/2017 8:43:04 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: ExGeeEye

Should read tossed Churchill aside


77 posted on 12/24/2017 9:09:25 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: FreedomPoster

> “The River War: An Account of the Reconquest of the Sudan
by Winston Churchill”

A great book for a lot of reasons other than he got it right about Muslims. I read it many, many years ago and the phrase “Follow the biscuit” stuck. It was important many times in my years as a Civil Engineer.


78 posted on 12/24/2017 9:14:00 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Chamberlain still thought they could negotiate for peace.”

People forget that Chamberlain became a stalwart ally of Churchill throughout the war. Churchill wept openly at his funeral.

L


79 posted on 12/24/2017 9:14:40 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: rbg81

As long as they keep giving oscars to people like Meryl “let em eat Harvey” Streep, oscars are meaningless.


80 posted on 12/24/2017 9:18:25 AM PST by Yaelle
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