Posted on 12/10/2017 5:08:23 PM PST by Elderberry
“Obama was housed at the University of Hawaii’s East-West Center facility funded by the Asia Foundation, itself funded by CIA...”
If by housed he means lived at the East West Center he is very wrong.
He lived at the Atherton YMCA at 1810 University Avenue.
If you read the paragraph before that one he cites Wayne Madsen saying
“Self-styled investigative journalist Wayne Madsen reports that Madelyn Dunham, the mother of Barack’s mother, Ann Dunham, who became vice president of the Bank of Hawaii soon after her arrival there, was in charge of escrow accounts.”
Madelyn Dunham did not become VP of the bank until just before Obama’s return from Indonesia in 1971.
“By the time Barry returned to Hawaii, Toot had become the stable financial source in the family, well known in the local lending community. In the library of the Honolulu Advertiser, no clippings mention Stan Dunham, but Madelyn Dunham crops up frequently in the business pages. A few months before Barry arrived from Indonesia, his grandmother had been promoted to vice president at the Bank of Hawaii along with Dorothy K. Yamamoto — the first two female vice presidents in the bank’s history.”
Codaville appears to be using unreliable sources. Which to me throw into doubt the lei picture is from a 1959 newspaper article.
“So both Cashill and Codevilla are referring to an image that was published by CBS in 2007.”
And the CBS caption reads
“Obama’s father, Barack Obama Sr., center, is shown wearing floral leis on his graduation day at the University of Hawaii in the early 1960s.”
So that would be June, 1962.
And supposedly, at the University of Hawaii graduation in June 1962, you have Neil Abercrombie, Stanley Armour Dunham, at least three people who were photographed at the Nachmanoff social gathering, including Ann/Anne USA, some Navy personnel, a Japanese lady who graduated from the University in 1959, and a couple of young fellows who bear no relationship that I can see, to the rest of the gathering. A few union members maybe, for good measure. Out in the open, at night.
There's also good reason to think that maybe this photograph was taken on the Kenyan's visit to Hawaii in 1970. If you compare the Kenyan's facial features to his 1970 images at the airport, that looks a whole lot more like him than the early 1960 images.
Try it. I do have comparison images, but they are on another computer, and not accessible right now. Leave the door open...you've been lied to on so many levels, to the extent that NOTHING is as you are expected to believe.
Perhaps Codevilla is the unreliable source...
Re your comment about the archives, Abercrombie and Obama’s birth certificate. You completely misconstrued what took place (as usual). Abercrombie never said he looked in the archives. He had previously announced that he was going to lay the *birther* controversy to rest by confirming that Obama had a HI BC. For that, he’d have looked in the vital records.
No matter what Obots contend, ‘Neil,’ did tell his friend Mike Evans that no HI BC exitsted for Obama. Evans backpaddling afterwards only underscores how sensitive the issue is. Abercrombie had thought he was speaking in confidence to a friend; Evans thought he was being gifted with a huge scoop. That explains why he talked about it 23 times the next day. Then he was obviously contacted and told to retract, which he did.
Anyway, Abercrombie never said he looked in the archives. He said he was *told* something was in the archives. But his search for the BC would not have been taken place in the archives. Not *everyone* on Abercrombie’s staff was a drooling idiot; when the governor said he wanted to confirm the existence of Obama’s BC, he’d have been directed to the vital records.
“by confirming that Obama had a HI BC”
There you go making stuff up again.
“Abercrombie, in his first on-camera comments on the matter, said that he has his attorney general and the state’s Health Department director looking at what legal avenues can they follow to release more documentation of Obama’s birth in 1961.”
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Asked if one option is to ask Obama to waive his privacy rights so that a copy of his actual birth certificate can be released publicly, Abercrombie cut off a reporter’s question.
“No, no, no - it’s not up to the president,” he said. “It has nothing to do with the president. It has to do with the people of Hawaii who love him, people who love his mom and dad. It has to do with respect the office of the president is entitled to. And it has to do with respect that every single person’s mother and father are entitled to.”
Pressed on whether he might unilaterally release a copy of Obama’s actual birth certificate, Abercrombie made clear that he is waiting for his cabinet officials to give him a report on what he can legally do before proceeding.
“Obviously, I’m going to do what is legally possible,” the governor said.
http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/27/governor-vows-to-end-birther-controversy/
In January, 2011 Abercrombie found out that legally he cannot release any information.
“Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie will end his quest to prove President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii because it’s against state law to release private documents, his office said Friday.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hawaii-wont-release-obama-birth-info/
Nothing about confirming that Obama had a birth certificate always only going to release what he was legally able to release.
“No matter what Obots contend, ‘Neil,’ did tell his friend Mike Evans that no HI BC exitsted for Obama.”
He didn’t just backpedal - he outright retracted everything he said.
It may show how sensitive the issue is or it may show he is a blowhard who made up a claim.
I wonder why Zullo never interviewed him.
You can’t decide if you’re coming or going. First you say Abercrombie looked in the wrong place, and now you pretend you never said it.
Additionally, your dishonesty is simply off the charts. You quote extensively from an article written entirely BEFORE Abercrombie began his fruitless search, and briefly from another after ‘Neil,’ had discovered there was no BC on file. I truly believe you are so divorced from honesty, you have no idea how duplicitous you are. In between these two quotes is the exchange with reporters under discussion. Try to keep up.
Abercrombie searched for proof that Obama was born in HI. You said the problem was the location: that BCs are not kept in the archives.
But when first asked, Abercrombie did NOT say, “I’m told the BC is in the vital records, exactly where it should be.’
He said he was told it was written in the archives. And privately he admitted there was no BC on file.
A rational person could put down everything Mike Evans said in 23 interviews to delusion. Evans quoted Abercrombie extensively. He has no record of misrepresenting people wholesale. He heard right the first time, but misunderstood why ‘Neil,’ was confiding in him. He thought his friend was handing him a blockbuster scoop. In fact, Abercrombie was merely reeling from his discoveries, and imagined he could unburden himself in confidence to a friend of long-standing.
Btw, great researcher that you are, you claimed that Mike Evans never said he got this information directly from ‘Neil,’ personally. That is just one of the many false statements you so glibly disseminate.
Correction:
‘A rational person could NOT put down everything Mike Evans said in 23 interviews to delusion.’
What 23 interviews are you talking about?
I low-balled it. Mike Evans provided reports to well over 23 radio stations. He later claimed that in only one of those reports to have said he got the information directly from Neil, but transcripts show that he confirmed the information came directly from Abercrombie in at least three of those reports.
You mean Mike Evans has no problem lying openly?
Your ironclad presuppositions, which you wear like blinders, permit you the option of drawing no other conclusion. However, Abercrombie’s concomitant statement backs Evan’s claim to a T. As I pointed out, Abercrombie did NOT say, “I’m told the BC is in the vital records files, exactly where it should be.” He said he was told there was actually something written in the archives. As has been pointed out, that something would not have been a BC.
[And before your Obot talking points kick in, Abercrombie’s stated goal was to lay the BC controversy permanently to rest. So if he’d been told the BC was definitely where it should have been, he’d have said so.]
If Evans says he only misspoke in one interview but you have solid evidence that it was a higher number, then he’s lying, right? Or are my presuppositions at work again?
Or is it possible that when you make ~3 dozen reports, you may not remember your exact wording in each one?
Oops; that would be giving Evans the benefit of the doubt. Obots are only allowed to do that for fellow Obama-lovers.
What is stranger than his memory is the idea that he’s just been given absolute bombshell news personally by the Governor of Hawaii about one of the hottest topics of the year and yet in over 30 interviews in one day he only remembers to mention it a few times.
Six week old infant rescued from plane crash in 1957.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/rikers-island-plane-crash
The actions of the participants reveal their mindset. Evans blasted the news all over the place—that’s how you’d handle a scoop. He retracted the reports shortly thereafter, which indicates he was told to. Why would Abercrombie give him the information one day and send word to button his lip the next? BC ‘Neil,’ never expected the info to go public.
Link?
I never said he looked in the wrong place.
I realize your not very bright (do make allowances for that) but do try to follow along.
You made the following claim:
“He had previously announced that he was going to lay the *birther* controversy to rest by confirming that Obama had a HI BC. For that, he’d have looked in the vital records.”
Like a lot of your claims it was bullshit.
So I posted to you what Abercrombie actually said. I realize that your not interested in the truth so but I figure some else might read it and see a moron you are.
“Abercrombie searched for proof that Obama was born in HI. You said the problem was the location: that BCs are not kept in the archives.”
More made up bullshit. Which is why I posted what he actually said.
“But when first asked”
How do you know?
“And privately he admitted there was no BC on file.”
More made stuff. See if you were really an honest person (which you are not) you would have written “And it is claimed he admitted there was no BC on file.”
Unless you personally had a private conversation with Abercrombie, you do not know what he may or may not have said in private.
How do you know it 23 times?
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