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I don't always agree with jury verdicts, but I always respect them, especially if I wasn't in the courtroom to hear all the testimony. The Founders put the right to trial by jury in the Constitution for a reason.
1 posted on 12/03/2017 11:46:03 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian
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The evidence was enough for a manslaughter conviction.


2 posted on 12/03/2017 11:48:41 AM PST by Red Steel
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She wasn’t murdered, the prosecution reached trying to put intent. However to say the man who killed her was not guilty of manslaughter is an affront to justice. His actions caused her death, whether intentional or not, that’s manslaughter.


3 posted on 12/03/2017 11:48:49 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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At the very least he committed negligent homicide. Period.


4 posted on 12/03/2017 11:49:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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It was OK for him to kill her because maybe someday, somebody might be mean to him.


5 posted on 12/03/2017 11:50:44 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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They pushed hard for a first degree murder verdict, which requires not only proving that the defendant killed the victim, but that he did it intentionally, and that it was premeditated (planned or thought out beforehand).


The jury had the option of involuntary manslughter.


7 posted on 12/03/2017 11:58:23 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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Sweet justice: Garcia is “accidentally” shot three times by an illegal alien.


8 posted on 12/03/2017 11:59:41 AM PST by windsorknot
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Double Jeapordy is a constitutional right. I thought constitutional rights only belonged to citizens?


10 posted on 12/03/2017 12:04:14 PM PST by Vic S
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“Reviewing the SIG Sauer website shows these handguns cost $1,000 or more. You can see how defense counsel could easily argue that a homeless illegal immigrant would be unfamiliar with one.”

Absolute, pure baloney. Cost has nothing to do with it. It works like millions of other guns made by dozens of other manufacturers in the last 75 years. Red State sinks further and further into the left-wing slime.


12 posted on 12/03/2017 12:08:01 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do D"emocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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This guy ought to be shot then hanged but, the prosecutor over charged....


14 posted on 12/03/2017 12:10:44 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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cripes...this illegal alien is illegally in this country for the 6th time, making him a 4 time felon...yet he don’t know nothin from nothin.
How did he ever find his way back to this country ? just to be homeless...


16 posted on 12/03/2017 12:12:36 PM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.Ever.)
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You know it's a common, legal, prosecutorial procedure?

Charge with and try the most serious possible offense, so that there is no way there can be a followup retry on a lesser charge?

DAs do this all the time with cops charged with murder, and lose, so they can shield them, and the city, from civil financial exposure.

In one syllable terms, the DA went into the tank for the sanctuary city's policy.

17 posted on 12/03/2017 12:13:00 PM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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That the bullet richocet off the ground points to a lack of intent.

The prosecutor should have stuck with manslaughter


18 posted on 12/03/2017 12:13:00 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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Being San Francisco it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the prosecutor did just enough to appear to be prepared and competent, but little enough to guarantee an acquittal....Remember, prosecutors are political animals, too, and we all know about Bay Area politics....


19 posted on 12/03/2017 12:14:41 PM PST by clintonh8r (I've been banned from TheHill.com. #Proud)
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Nothing respectable here.

Not the judge, not the jury, and not the prosecutor.

No judge should ever be allowed to instruct a jury unless the jury so requests.

In a proper court room, two things are always on trial:

~ The statutes under which the defendant was charged.

~ The defendant.
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20 posted on 12/03/2017 12:15:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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We have been lied to about everything since the dawn of time. Why would this be different?


21 posted on 12/03/2017 12:15:29 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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I know this much: if the jerk had been in his own damn hellhole and NOT here in my country she would be alive today.

A court of law does NOT have that standard because they don’t deal with THE LARGER PICTURE.

Send ALL illegals home. OUR system of law does NOT allow the innocent children of bank robbers to ‘keep the loot’ ... Send the dreamers home...


23 posted on 12/03/2017 12:21:41 PM PST by GOPJ (Are the NBC women 'NOT complaining' the ones who 'put out' and moved up the ladder?)
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There was no first degree murder. This was a case of manslaughter. Still convicted of a felony weapon’s offence he should once again be deported. What about the victim’s estate suing Calif., SF on the original deportation issue though?


24 posted on 12/03/2017 12:23:10 PM PST by Lent
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I do think that most people, even this guy, know at least that a gun is dangerous and shouldn’t be pointed at someone. Even most 5 year olds know that. On top of that, if he’s smart enough to keep crossing the border illegally and getting through the interior checkpoints, he’s not an idiot.

Manslaughter, at a minimum.


28 posted on 12/03/2017 12:32:01 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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Sarah Rumpf should be named as a candidate for the Pulitzer Neo-Nazi Propaganda award. She sounds so convincing.

Seriously, search the internet for Nazi propaganda, alive and well today. They are so good at it they will have many believing Hitler was deserving of sympathy. Seriously.


30 posted on 12/03/2017 12:33:03 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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“Garcia Zarate could have fired the gun and killed Steinle by accident”

Negligent homicide. Accidentally killed someone while doing something an ordinary person would know was dangerous - LIKE PULLING THE TRIGGER ON A GUN ON A CROWDED CITY STREET!


34 posted on 12/03/2017 12:34:43 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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