Posted on 09/19/2017 11:59:31 AM PDT by nodwam
A new Obamacare repeal bill written by Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham (S.C.) and Bill Cassidy (La.) has until the end of the month to pass in the senate. The bill would block grant about $500 billion of federal spending to the states over 10 years to either repeal, repair or keep their ObamaCare programs.
The senators see the bill as a way to bridge the divide as they try to put together a bill that can muster 50 votes in the senate. The bill would repeal ObamaCare's individual and employer mandates, but keep insurer regulations protecting people with pre-existing conditions.
“If you believe repealing and replacing Obamacare is a good idea, this is your best and only chance to make it happen,” said Graham last week.
"I have got Alan Greenspan, Jeb Bush and Steve Bannon" behind this bill, Graham said. "If anyone can do better I'd like to meet them."
The White House has said that President Trump would sign the bill if it made it to his desk.
Currently Vice President Pence is working with the Senate to pass the Graham-Cassidy repeal bill.
.@POTUS asked me to return to DC for the Senate policy lunch w/ @LindseyGrahamSC to urge Congress to repeal and replace Obamacare. pic.twitter.com/ICST8FFQfY— Vice President Pence (@VP) September 19, 2017
Bottom line, this bill would be a significant step in repealing and replacing Obamacare.
Block granting and repealing the individual mandate is far superior to current Obamacare law.
I don’t care what they do as long as they do something about getting rid of Obamacare. It’s an affliction to the young, the middle class, cities, businesses...I honestly can’t think of anybody it benefits.
If they don’t do this, the GOP can kiss their electoral chances goodbye the next time around. They look like a pack of fools, both the “conservatives” and the liberal wing.
I don’t understand why Collins just doesn’t change parties. I don’t get it. I thought the bill would allow States to choose to opt in or out. What is bad about that?
It doesn’t repeal anything. It just moves the deck chairs around.
I am not a fan of the bill. But it moves the ball in our direction. Do it. Then defeat Heller, Flake, McCaskill, Bill Nelson, and every other Democrat Senator in states won by Trump.
Then pass another bill in January of 2019 that mops up the rest of the slop on the floor.
It’ll benefit the economy, health care, AND it will prolong Chuck Schumer’s misery. A trifecta of wins.
This bill is a coward’s way out. Since Rinos like Graham don’t have the balls to repeal and replace Obamacare. This bill gives the ball-less wonders a way out. It shifts the responsibility for doing something with Obamacare to the states.
Graham and his ilk are thoroughly disgusting creatures.
Let's get serious. Do you really think two Senators wrote this bill?
Oh, BTW, what happened to REPEALING nobamacare? This just replaces it with something else.
The mandate is there because insurance companies are forced to cover pre-existing conditions. Take away the mandate but keep the pre-existing conditions and the insurance companies go broke. Then Graham and his Dem friends get the single payer they really want.
Which won’t really be a repeal.
Wow, just wow...
look, stop the stupidity. Insurance, by its very construct is the socialization of the risk, period. You want “capitalism” to fix health insurance you are just a flipping fool. Insurance is based on socializing a risk, any risk...
Lots pay in, some will use it little, some will use it a lot, but the pool created by lots paying in ensures all paying in have coverage.... its that simple. You can’t say, well hey you buddy, you were born with a life time disease because you lost the genetic pool, so guess what, you can’t have insurance... or if you do, it will cost you more than you will ever make, because the care for your disease is 100k+ a year....
And if you think chronic illnesses only happen to the young, or are just genetic you are equally a fool.
Reality is, Obamacare could have been avoided by simply mandating community pricing and ending pre-existing condition... had you done that Obamacare never would have happened, and don’t tell me it doesn’t work because several states had already done this prior to the obamacare attempt to federalize it.
Pure capitalism is just eff those who need it.. Hey we know you’ve had our insurance for years, but now that you have a diagnosis of lung cancer, guess what, we aren’t going to renew your policy.
Stop it with the pure capitalism will fix everything horsecrap, thats no different than the fools who argue more government will fix everything
They are going broke anyway...... or haven’t you noticed?
You fix it by simply requiring coverage for all available, and community pricing... period. Do that, and that’s all you need to deal with it.. and that’s all that needed to be done when dems decided to destroy the entire industry so they could come in with single payer.
Don’t tell me it doesn’t work, several states did exactly this prior to Obamacare... and they were fine. Had the fed simply made those 2 requirements, this entire nightmare would have gone away.... but actually helping people was never the goal, just the cover story
I never said Pure Capitalism will Fix Everything.
I say that Obamacare is disasterous and failure.
Pre-existing conditions are not going to be covered by
insurance, insurance is not designed to cover them in the first place. You buy insurance prospectively, not in retrospect after you get cancer
Insurance works pretty well, Insurance loaded down with
pre-existing and other governmental mandates does NOT, can NOT work
if we as a polity are to provide health insurance for those that have not seen fit to purchase it for themselves,
it is still a state or local function and NOT a proper part of our federal govt. This should be supported by everyone, not just constitutionalist types like me. Because, the federal government is notoriously poor at providing individualized services ... if only due to its horrid bureaucrappy and having to interface with 350,000,000 people (not even counting all the illegals)
if we are gonna have a welfare (as contrasted with insurance) based health care system for those who did not purchase insurance protection for themselves, so be it!
it will work 1000 times better if the states desiring it stop lobbying Congress to give it for “free” (sic!)... and just adopt programs for their local needs.
How did seniors get healthcare before Medicare? Gimme a break. Throw the entire healthcare system to the friendly wolves of capitalism.
There is no effective difference between Sen Collins and Sen Paul on preserving Obamacare if they both vote no on this bill.
“The preexisting conditions “insurance” is pure welfare. And will bankrupt any insurance program, public or private. I’d personally be willing to help such people- at least thosec who didn’t have a chance to buy insurance - such as birth or maybe childhood- incurred conditions. But it logically can’t be part of an “insurance” program without destroying the insurance for everyone else. -———let the states to do it too— it’s not a proper federal activity to begin with”
you are correct, which is why any “replace” that includes it is doomed to failure
That is a very good point.
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